Roman skins, can I?

[Curtis13]

I really want to play a campaign as Rome, but I just can't get into it with no skins. Is there any way to use custom skins while you make your own?

How would I use some custom skins I downloaded and incorperate them into EB?

I am mainly referring to Hastati and Princepes, could someone help me out?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

So the Hastati and Principes don't have skins in your build? Maybe there was a download problem with the open beta. If they are white models fighting out there you should probably download it again as there are definitely skins in the open beta for the Romans. That's just weird...

[Curtis13]

Really? Hmm, they just basically fight in white togas...

[Curtis13]

Mine basically looks like this:



Does anyone else have this?

Teleklos, do you mean download the whole mod again, or just the new 0.73 patch? I have reinstalled the patch and it did nothing.

[Zenith Darksea]

That's how they're supposed to look.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Oh. I thought this was an actual error. Never mind.

[Curtis13]

Sorry folks, my mistake, didn't realise that they were historically dressed like that.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Basically, because they are realistic.

cf. something like: http://www.slitherine.com/Legion/Ima...elephants2.jpg

[Curtis13]

OK, thanks for clearing it up, sorry for the time waste...

[QwertyMIDX]

They'll look more like the Romans you're used too after the Marian (2nd) reforms.

[Ahiga]

I found it quite peculiar the way they look before the reforms which occur around 209 B.C. EB is a team whose dedication to realism is palpable enough to give most thought to when there is no contradictory evidence..but in all the media I saw depdicting the Punic wars, when done correctly, it tended to have the Romans looking like the Polybian reform Legionaries. Not the more antique and somewhat 'poor' looking ones which we start off with.

It's no complaint of my own. It helps give the romans a vast diversity in the appearance of their units, and I am sure is realistic. I just had no idea they changed in arnament and appearance before the Marian reforms. Glad I had that education in the Roman Legions from the team. Helps to defeat the misconception the public has all the more, that the legions were the same looking from the start to the end/

[jedisponge]

I found it quite peculiar the way they look before the reforms which occur around 209 B.C. EB is a team whose dedication to realism is palpable enough to give most thought to when there is no contradictory evidence..but in all the media I saw depdicting the Punic wars, when done correctly, it tended to have the Romans looking like the Polybian reform Legionaries. Not the more antique and somewhat 'poor' looking ones which we start off with.

It's no complaint of my own. It helps give the romans a vast diversity in the appearance of their units, and I am sure is realistic. I just had no idea they changed in arnament and appearance before the Marian reforms. Glad I had that education in the Roman Legions from the team. Helps to defeat the misconception the public has all the more, that the legions were the same looking from the start to the end/

Generally speaking, there is very much a lack of evidence, descriptions etc on the Roman military before the 2nd Punic Wars. There's bits and pieces here and there. But thinking in the terms of a big picture, it is fairly incomplete.

However, from the 2nd Punic Wars and after, we find more literary, descriptive accounts of the Roman military in both make up and tactics. And hence, these descriptions of the "Polybian" Romans were more or less projected into the earlier Republic military. Again, I stress the fact that our vision of the Roman military before the 2nd Punic Wars is a very incomplete picture.

[Khelvan]

The "Camillan" units we have for the pre-Polybian Romans are gathered from a combination of various primary sources, including Diodorus of Halicarnassus, Livy, and others. At least three of these ancient writers agree enough on the basics of the units to allow us to come up with what we have, and also some more obscure writings that Urnamma has found which I don't have access to.

[booker]

And how accuarate that picture you post is?... http://www.slitherine.com/Legion/Ima...elephants2.jpg

I mean really, there are many things we can´t really tell if they were accuarate or not... when you find this pic i can find others who say they were the other way around...

All this accuarate is so unaccuarate coz we can´t tell most of things.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

What is your point? His question was answered. If you are saying it's wrong, then say it and explain why.

[booker]

I´m not saying it is wrong, but honeslty i can´t say it is right either.

My point is how accuarate are those pictures you guys used as a reference ?.... Many things we think they are accuarate, could be wrong.

That´s all, i´m not trying to start a fight here, just a side note, we can´t be 100% accuarate of how the Hastati uniform was.

[jedisponge]

I´m not saying it is wrong, but honeslty i can´t say it is right either.

My point is how accuarate are those pictures you guys used as a reference ?.... Many things we think they are accuarate, could be wrong.

That´s all, i´m not trying to start a fight here, just a side note, we can´t be 100% accuarate of how the Hastati uniform was.

Well with Classics there's always an air of "was it really like that". We just have to do our best with scant evidence. And with the resources at hand, EB has their interpretations which have been done as accurately as they can. Their interpretations, with their scholarly backing, could be as good as it gets.

[Sparton Matticus]

You have to remember that picture is an artists impression of what the romans may have looked like. Other artists will draw or paint them in a different way.

But EB is based on historical accuracy, well as historic as possible. Trust them. And remember they have been doing lots of research a year before the actual rome total war game came out if i recall. So lets just say these guys are historical freaks! haha

[Teleklos Archelaou]

We aren't using that picture as reference. I grabbed that picture quickly off the web to show at least a more educated (if not perfect) representation of what a 272 BC hastati would have looked like. The skinners and the historians they work with on units have access to a lot of other information, but I'm sure some of it is in Osprey books too. They are better than any random person's guess at the least. They aren't going to be perfect no matter who does them.

[booker]

ok, no problem, don´t take it personal i think this happen on most of the historic stuff.

For example, today i went to a Bookstore and i was looking some books of roman times, most of this book use a Map to show the reader how it was on those time.. you know, each book show different map, some little changes and others more important... that is my point, wich one of those were more accuarate?... maybe none of them were..who knows!?.