US diplomats concerned about islamic radicals in Jamaica

**Gromovnik** · May 28, 2011, 06:21 AM

An islamic hate preacher from UK is continuing his career on Jamaica, his home island: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110527/...aican_jihadist
Is it possible that Jamaica will become a hotbed for islamic radicalism?

**Jom** · May 28, 2011, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Gromovnik

An islamic hate preacher from UK is continuing his career on Jamaica, his home island: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110527/...aican_jihadist
Is it possible that Jamaica will become a hotbed for islamic radicalism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...aica#Religions

No.

**Gromovnik** · May 28, 2011, 06:32 AM

Those numbers can change, and anyway you don't need a lot of people to form a terrorist cell.

**Jom** · May 28, 2011, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Gromovnik

Those numbers can change, and anyway you don't need a lot of people to form a terrorist cell.

So you envisage a mass conversion to Islam from a very strongly Christian country? And one terrorist cell does not equal a hotbed. There are probably terrorist cells in most countries. An out-spoken person preaching hatred is not exactly the kind of thing that a terrorist cell would want either, considering secrecy is pretty important when planning any acts of terror.

**Gromovnik** · May 28, 2011, 06:41 AM

I'm only saying that a lot of things are possible, including islamic terrorism appearing on Jamaica.

**Jom** · May 28, 2011, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Gromovnik

I'm only saying that a lot of things are possible, including islamic terrorism appearing on Jamaica.

May as well make a thread about a country mass converting to paganism and building a load of stone circles, because that's "possible" too. If threads were made about everything that could possibly happen, the Mudpit would have thousands a day. Why do you think this is particularly possible and worth discussing? Because 1 man has moved to Jamaica? Is he a modern day Mohammed about to bring about an Islamic renaissance?

**Gromovnik** · May 28, 2011, 06:52 AM

No, because US diplomats on the island are concerned about possible rise of islamic radicalism.

**Babur** · May 28, 2011, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by Gromovnik

No, because US diplomats on the island are concerned about possible rise of islamic radicalism.

Jamaica has 5000 Muslims though

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2010/148765.htm

**mrmouth** · May 28, 2011, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Babur

Jamaica has 5000 Muslims though

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2010/148765.htm

And there are not really a whole lot more Taliban when you think about it. The number is in the tens of thousands.

When this stuff spreads to violent, poverty stricken areas with an already highly oppressive and violent prison system, I would take notice. But its not something I would personally worry about.

The US is simply calling attention to it. Maybe they are putting it in the public domain because of disagreements with the Brits. I dont know...

**Dr. Croccer** · May 28, 2011, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Gromovnik

No, because US diplomats on the island are concerned about possible rise of islamic radicalism.

Wikileaks has already proven that many US diplomats aren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.

Then again, Islamic terrorism should always be taken seriously. I can't see it taking root in Jamaica though.

**Simon Cashmere** · May 28, 2011, 06:58 AM

The problem with Jamaica is, it is a failed state. It is corrupt, the police are overrun, people jog down the road carrying guns and anything goes. As a black muslim radical, you could *easily* hide out there, and do whatever you wanted to. Foreign law enforcement, being white guys stand out a mile away. If you wanted to operate from there, provided you just got online, raised money, etc (and didnt do anything operational) it is an excellent place to hide. There is also an area called the Blue Mountains, which is almost impenetrable wilderness, where even the lizards dont go. Hide out there - not many would know or care what you are doing.

And - before anyone says anything, yes, I've spent a lot of time in Jamaica.

**tarvu** · May 28, 2011, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere

The problem with Jamaica is, it is a failed state. It is corrupt, the police are overrun, people jog down the road carrying guns and anything goes. As a black muslim radical, you could *easily* hide out there, and do whatever you wanted to. Foreign law enforcement, being white guys stand out a mile away. If you wanted to operate from there, provided you just got online, raised money, etc (and didnt do anything operational) it is an excellent place to hide. There is also an area called the Blue Mountains, which is almost impenetrable wilderness, where even the lizards dont go. Hide out there - not many would know or care what you are doing.

And - before anyone says anything, yes, I've spent a lot of time in Jamaica.

I'm pretty sure that the U.S. has one or two law enforcement officials who are not "white guys".

**Gromovnik** · May 28, 2011, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Guy

Not really.

And why is that?

**Farnan** · May 28, 2011, 08:56 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaat_...n_coup_attempt

This is probably what they are worried about more than anything. The security forces in the Carribean are generally weak, and small groups can cause large internal problems.

**Vanoi** · May 28, 2011, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Farnan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaat_...n_coup_attempt

This is probably what they are worried about more than anything. The security forces in the Carribean are generally weak, and small groups can cause large internal problems.

Yes but do you think the various criminal organizations on the island will allow Islamic radicalism to take root? They don't want more attention from the US government on their island, and Islamic radicalism brings alot of attention.