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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    Quote Originally Posted by M3driverE92 View Post
    In the changelog you noted: "The cashflow is also slightly changed"

    Did you adjust it up or down?

    I find early game is fine but once you get 4+ provinces you can really rake in lots of money under the pre-2.5 patches.
    I wrote "slightly" with relevance. Some factors are upped, some are nerfed.

    In sum, as you say "after getting 4+ regions", there is not a vast difference to former versions.
    Unless you run around with ie. 3 full stacks incl. lots of ships all the time, you are able to have a well-shaped income, at least in my playtesting.
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    Hi DaVinci,

    First I'd just like to say thanks for a great mod. I've tried out a few of the big overhauls now and I enjoy yours quite a bit so far.

    My question is regarding unit movement speed...did you happen to use the 20% or 30% version?

    I only ask because I was wondering if you tested both and, if so, which one you picked.

    Thanks for your time and all your efforts!
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sulla's Dog View Post
    Hi DaVinci,

    First I'd just like to say thanks for a great mod. I've tried out a few of the big overhauls now and I enjoy yours quite a bit so far.

    My question is regarding unit movement speed...did you happen to use the 20% or 30% version?

    I only ask because I was wondering if you tested both and, if so, which one you picked.

    Thanks for your time and all your efforts!
    The movement reduction mod was playtested in the first days of release, i personally used, iirc. 30 %.
    In S2R+ is an unique approach contained (done from CA's patch6 file), which is circa between 20-30% reduction.
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    Thanks! DaVinci

    Quick question: any interest in including "no Horo" at all in this mod?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sulla's Dog View Post
    Thanks! DaVinci

    Quick question: any interest in including "no Horo" at all in this mod?

    Thanks!
    Nope (should be compatible with S2R+ though, i used the mod for a while, too - in the meantime i wanna see in-battle, who the general himself is, he alone has no horo).

    It should be really easy for everybody to install movie format mods on S2R+: simply drop the mod.pack file into the data folder, ready.

    Also, just check out 1st post "Other Mods" section and the link there to the according thread in the S2R+ forum (with diverse hints about possible mods on S2R+, and mod contents/properties which are already part of S2R+).
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    WOnderful Mod Can you change the speed of climbing units? they seem to climb fast and it looks unrealistic. is there a way to do this like in a kv rule? or movement modifier?

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    Quote Originally Posted by ravensilvermaine View Post
    WOnderful Mod Can you change the speed of climbing units? they seem to climb fast and it looks unrealistic. is there a way to do this like in a kv rule? or movement modifier?
    Have to look into it, can't remember right now if i modified such a value.
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    the climbing speed is the same with vanilla and with your mod. there seems to have a line in the KV RULE ---> it says "Climbing wall penalty time." i tired changing it but there seems to be no changes. :-?

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    If it's possible to do it then be sure Da Vinci will change it. I agree, those climbers look like a swarm of insects when climbing.
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    I checked it, and didn't find according movement speed values for climbing walls. If somebody knows the site, please let us know.

    it says "Climbing wall penalty time." i tired changing it but there seems to be no changes.
    The problem is, some codes are active (with function), some are not - i believe i modified this value as well a while ago, and didn't see a change.
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    If you know of a mod that has changed the climbing speed then please direct us to it.
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    I hope someone could help us with this. i really dont like them climbing like spiders.

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    I have noticed that arrows don't get stuck in bodies when using this mod?

    Is there any way to get that feature back?

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    Quote Originally Posted by AtheistDane View Post
    I have noticed that arrows don't get stuck in bodies when using this mod?

    Is there any way to get that feature back?
    Yes, with the PFM tool, open the mod pack, and find effects/landbattle.xml. Delete this xml file and save.

    With the upcoming update, the xml file is removed (which was used to remove arrow-dust).
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    I installed the sr2.6 to data folder and it's got CTD error.I am on patch 7.what might be wrong?

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    Quote Originally Posted by taducanh View Post
    I installed the sr2.6 to data folder and it's got CTD error.I am on patch 7.what might be wrong?
    Perhaps you have leftovers of incompatible mod contents installed?
    Anyways, make sure S2 vanilla runs properly, then add S2R+, and consider the 1st post content,
    ie. "Relevant Notes" section includes a tip about dealing with certain S2 roaming folder contents after CA patches and mods which contain additional units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci View Post
    Perhaps you have leftovers of incompatible mod contents installed?
    Anyways, make sure S2 vanilla runs properly, then add S2R+, and consider the 1st post content,
    ie. "Relevant Notes" section includes a tip about dealing with certain S2 roaming folder contents after CA patches and mods which contain additional units.
    I dun think so.I deleted the allinone realism mod before that.The vanilla play well but the s2+ give me ctd error. I deleted it and use the allinone and i run smoothly.i did delete the userscript also before that but still ctd with your mod.

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    Quote Originally Posted by taducanh View Post
    I dun think so.I deleted the allinone realism mod before that.The vanilla play well but the s2+ give me ctd error. I deleted it and use the allinone and i run smoothly.i did delete the userscript also before that but still ctd with your mod.

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    Just delete the whole appdata/roaming S2 folder, run vanilla (and make your preference settings again, or later), and then put the mod.pack into data, run the game. If this doesn't help, then i don't know, what's wrong in your case.
    Also, normally you must have already CA's patch8.pack in your data folder, if you have updated your game install.
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.6]

    3 ammo for all bow units except ashigaru?

    are you kidding me?

    i understand the want to have people use samurai as melee fighters, but even samurai armed with bows would have brought more than 3 arrows to the fight... The samurai dont se melee combat as the be-all-end-all of combat... archery was very much considered an art of war and samurai deployed as archers would indeed function as archers until they ran out of ammo, then they would join the fight (instead of resigning to the spectating role of regular archers).

    there is no historical evidence at all that suggests samurai archers only brought 3 arrows each to battle... thats ridiculous...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddball_E8 View Post
    3 ammo for all bow units except ashigaru?

    are you kidding me?

    i understand the want to have people use samurai as melee fighters, but even samurai armed with bows would have brought more than 3 arrows to the fight... The samurai dont se melee combat as the be-all-end-all of combat... archery was very much considered an art of war and samurai deployed as archers would indeed function as archers until they ran out of ammo, then they would join the fight (instead of resigning to the spectating role of regular archers).

    there is no historical evidence at all that suggests samurai archers only brought 3 arrows each to battle... thats ridiculous...
    Your posting style is ridiculous.

    there is no historical evidence at all that suggests samurai archers only brought 3 arrows each to battle
    Right.

    Everything else

    Every Samurai was usually/historically armed with a bow, a yari (or naginata), and his 2 swords, and he was very likely mounted (but not necessarily fought also mounted).
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