Shogun 2 Realism + (S2R+) | Update v3.0 - 25th October 2013

[Peregrinus]

Here's some feedback:

Had some fun yesterday playing with the Hojo, the unit names are a bit confusing, I understand thats a feature of this mod, suppose I will have to study your unit guide a bit

The Rebels seem to be a bit overpowered, when a region revolts the rebel force is too strong, although this didnt happen to me, its effect on AI factions was too damaging in my opinion, I saw both Oda and Chosokabe loose their capitals to the Rebels, and the Shimazu didnt expand beyond their home region probably because they conquered the region next to them only to loose them to the Rebels afterwards, and this mod's economy is too hard on small factions to build a good army to take those rebel settlements will almost full stacks.

Later today im thinking on starting a new game with the Shimazu.

[DaVinci]

Here's some feedback:

Had some fun yesterday playing with the Hojo, the unit names are a bit confusing, I understand thats a feature of this mod, suppose I will have to study your unit guide a bit

The Rebels seem to be a bit overpowered, when a region revolts the rebel force is too strong, although this didnt happen to me, its effect on AI factions was too damaging in my opinion, I saw both Oda and Chosokabe loose their capitals to the Rebels, and the Shimazu didnt expand beyond their home region probably because they conquered the region next to them only to loose them to the Rebels afterwards, and this mod's economy is too hard on small factions to build a good army to take those rebel settlements will almost full stacks.

Later today im thinking on starting a new game with the Shimazu.

Campaign outcome is always interesting to get. What i like to see is then the camp parameters just to get a better idea.

And note, what you describe above would be different in the next campaign, i have yet to see same campaign outcomes, even with same factions camps are always pretty different.

Recently played a quite long camp into mid 1560 years with Chosokabe under development-conditions, and from the majors, only Hattori, Uesugi and iirc. Date died there, and everything looked quite good. Then 2nd camp trial with Shimazu is ongoing now, mid 1550 years, and as of yet majors are pretty stable except Usuegi died again already (which i'll focus soon on for an adjustment).

DaVinci I agree that samurai should be few in army but I will be glad to see at least 5-12 battalions of samurai and monk,for example Takeda 12 units of iary cavalry and bow cavalry +5 units of catana cavalry+...Data 12 battalions of Data samurai but 3 units of catana cavalry and 10 of rest,but I like very much unit balance of S2R+it will be great each faction to have stronger units,units that this faction specialise in,in rest ronnins,wako should be like in S2R,thanks for great job,I use your units from S2R+ with S2R but I will be happy to se a compilation which units tham,and I think every captured province should give you oportunity to recruit at least one more samurai unit,Thanks!

Alright, much fun with merging db files of the both mods.

[son of romans]

DaVinci I agree that samurai should be few in army but I will be glad to see at least 5-12 battalions of samurai and monk,for example Takeda 12 units of iary cavalry and bow cavalry +5 units of catana cavalry+...Data 12 battalions of Data samurai but 3 units of catana cavalry and 10 of rest,but I like very much unit balance of S2R+it will be great each faction to have stronger units,units that this faction specialise in,in rest ronnins,wako should be like in S2R,thanks for great job,I use your units from S2R+ with S2R but I will be happy to se a compilation which units tham,and I think every captured province should give you oportunity to recruit at least one more samurai unit,Thanks!

[son of romans]

But my idea is not suported,to merge both mods?

[DaVinci]

But my idea is not suported,to merge both mods?

Not sure. As you anyway need to use PFM, i recommend rather to modify S2R+ files to your custom-preference, should be easier and more secure for the result.

[son of romans]

Not sure. As you anyway need to use PFM, i recommend rather to modify S2R+ files to your custom-preference, should be easier and more secure for the result.

I tried to understand Agostinos instruction but without luck,all I need to modify is nummber of available units because I like unit stats,something close to S2R but with bigger differences beetwen clans,depends on their unit specialisation.

[DaVinci]

I tried to understand Agostinos instruction but without luck,all I need to modify is nummber of available units because I like unit stats,something close to S2R but with bigger differences beetwen clans,depends on their unit specialisation.

No, Agostinos made a tut for hexediting.
Look after the PFM tool. And if you are familiar with that tool (which is pretty easy to apply), then you only need to open the "units" db files, find columns unit number.

Edit:
The link to the PFM download: TWS2-PFM

[son of romans]

No, Agostinos made a tut for hexediting.
Look after the PFM tool. And if you are familiar with that tool (which is pretty easy to apply), then you only need to open the "units" db files, find columns unit number.

Edit:
The link to the PFM download: TWS2-PFM

Thanks,I have this tool,but with a month ago it haven't work,this one works perfect

[The Sweeper]

Just started using your version as support for S2R seems to have dried up. So far I'm enjoying a Uesugi campaign, playing on Hard difficulty. Will give feedback when I've played a little more.

Out of interest, what version of Hedge Knight's UAI is used in 2.0?

[DaVinci]

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Out of interest, what version of Hedge Knight's UAI is used in 2.0?

His last v2.2 (it's a lot customised though).

[gnosis89]

When I try to use the mod it loads the begenning splash screen for some time, then crashes...and says ¨STW2 dejo de funcionar` or in english that it has failed to respond...any advice? I am using windows 7 with the spanish version.

[DaVinci]

When I try to use the mod it loads the begenning splash screen for some time, then crashes...and says ¨STW2 dejo de funcionar` or in english that it has failed to respond...any advice? I am using windows 7 with the spanish version.

Updated to CA's patch7? Using any other mods which might be incompatible?
Patch the game and start vanilla, does it run properly? And afterwards:

If the issue remains after adding the S2R+ pack, read carefully all according hints in the first thread, ie. this

# Some tips for users who experience issues after CA patch updates or DLC's:
Remove the roaming S2 folder (it'll be generated anew). Example path: C:\Users\your pc name\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Shogun2
Alternative, deal in detail with files of this roaming Shogun2 folder:
Open the battle_preferences folder there, and remove the contained file, also it might help to remove the content of the army_setups folder.
That should solve all related issues (concerning unit files of mods and CA patches/dlc), if they occur for you.
If still in doubt, afterwards make a Steam S2 file verification. What i personally also do sometimes after CA patches: Replace the S2 shortcut exe, means, send a new one to desktop.

Anyways, a vanilla TWS2 patched up, can't make such an error normally, when you add the S2R+.pack file into the data folder.

Maybe it's also the spanish version, try to switch to the english language version via Steam.

[gnosis89]

I can change my version to english? How so? Also....I will obviously need to be connected to the internet no?

[DaVinci]

I can change my version to english? How so? Also....I will obviously need to be connected to the internet no?

Yes.

I replied already to that in your General Discussion threads.

[forcerecon569]

can you add pics of your custom units not the aum-sho but the ones you made?

[DaVinci]

can you add pics of your custom units not the aum-sho but the ones you made?

I spent no time to make custom units, where do i speak of custom* units except of the AUM-Sho content?
All those S2R+ additional units are clones (with unique stats and names), thus nothing to show.

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# Unit additions: Around 30 units are added (for balancing purposes and increased realism), this is including the AUM-Sho custom units.

[Capricornius]

Version 2.6 already? DaVinci you work fast.


IMO this has to be the most ideal mod for newcomers. The install is a no brainer, no fancy scripts, no splashscreens....just pop in the .pack file and boom. Done.

I support this with my undying gratitude.

[The Sweeper]

Having a difficult campaign with the Uesugi. Took Etchu and now I've been simultaneously declared war on by no less than 5 clans. Hopefully I can survive and provide some decent feedback .

One other question I had was whether you'd modified the realm divide event (eg. lessening the diplomatic relation hit it causes etc)?

[DaVinci]

Having a difficult campaign with the Uesugi. Took Etchu and now I've been simultaneously declared war on by no less than 5 clans. Hopefully I can survive and provide some decent feedback .

One other question I had was whether you'd modified the realm divide event (eg. lessening the diplomatic relation hit it causes etc)?

On which difficulty are you playing and which kind of campaign? (An upcoming update will make it slightly better for Uesugi).

Realm Divide: Yes, i did something there, quite long time ago, can't remember the details.

[The Sweeper]

On which difficulty are you playing and which kind of campaign? (An upcoming update will make it slightly better for Uesugi).

Realm Divide: Yes, i did something there, quite long time ago, can't remember the details.

I'm playing a Long Campaign on Hard difficulty. Just fought off two sieges in a row at Etchu but now there's a full Ikko Ichi stack heading straight for me, as well as one and a half Takeda stacks making for Echigo. All hands to the walls for now