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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Update: 1.99.5]

    Not sure if this has been fixed in the more recent beta versions but I didn't notice anything. I am using version 1.99 here.

    A couple of my units, who are not able to be replenished in the current province, are showing high numbers for replenishing (see attached). However, they are not actually being replenished at all.

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Update: 1.99.5]

    Quote Originally Posted by MartialDoctor View Post
    Not sure if this has been fixed in the more recent beta versions but I didn't notice anything. I am using version 1.99 here.

    A couple of my units, who are not able to be replenished in the current province, are showing high numbers for replenishing (see attached). However, they are not actually being replenished at all.
    Generally, replenishment rates are different per region (depends on buildings/infrastructure and art researchments, and just character traits).

    I see you are using a unit multiplier factor 2. Perhaps this might cause issues in this regard, i don't know, perhaps the region is depopulated?
    However, the mod is developed/balanced on multiplier default 1, ultra size.

    In my build, every unit that has the plus-sign usually gets also the replenishment-rate given in the plus-sign-info. There is no bug here.
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Update: 1.99.5]

    Guys I guess I need help. Every time I put this S2R+ mod it crashes. But the S2R is working fine, what should I do?

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Update: 1.99.5]

    Quote Originally Posted by aljonzc View Post
    Guys I guess I need help. Every time I put this S2R+ mod it crashes. But the S2R is working fine, what should I do?
    Read carefully the instructions for the base S2R+ mod and the Addon mods, ie. also the (updated) "Other relevant notes" section. Perhaps you merge pack files, which cause the crash, or you use a user.script file with incompatible commands? Note, S2R+ and its Addons do not need any user.script.

    I recommend the following:
    Remove all mods from the data folder.
    Check out if you have updated vanilla with patch7 (Steam).
    After updating vanilla, verify the installation via Steam.
    If vanilla works then as usually, install mods per instruction.

    Installing S2R+ and the offered Addons is really easy then, if you have a working (and clean) TWS2 vanilla.
    Hints for more additional mods (than the s2r+ Addons) on S2R+ is given in the S2R+ forum (tw.org).
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Update: 1.99.5]

    Experiencing an unpleasant thing with the itto-ikki, seeing that some buildings have incorrect or inexistant details by mouseover. Especially the temple.

    Also, buildings that do +0.1 itto ikki and +0.2 christan/buddhism at the same time (or identical values, roads IRC) are quite a bother...

    Also, i guess that's because it's the first time I play as these guys but... Betting random regions here and then can be strange... Ho does a region with no itto ikki contact, like the region that likns the southern island with the main island can join me by year 1955? Seriously?

    Still think you're doing a great job, and religion getting important apart from getting canons or whatsoever, but as a strategical weapon is great.
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Update: 1.99.5]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tepok View Post
    Experiencing an unpleasant thing with the itto-ikki, seeing that some buildings have incorrect or inexistant details by mouseover. Especially the temple.

    Also, buildings that do +0.1 itto ikki and +0.2 christan/buddhism at the same time (or identical values, roads IRC) are quite a bother...

    Also, i guess that's because it's the first time I play as these guys but... Betting random regions here and then can be strange... Ho does a region with no itto ikki contact, like the region that likns the southern island with the main island can join me by year 1955? Seriously?

    Still think you're doing a great job, and religion getting important apart from getting canons or whatsoever, but as a strategical weapon is great.
    Perhaps headover to the S2R+ forum, to read about concerned backgrounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci View Post
    Perhaps headover to the S2R+ forum, to read about concerned backgrounds.
    For the Religion with roads, the problem is that it saturates the info cards. That's why it bothers me, that's all.

    Edit: I understand the idea WITHOUT having to read a thread about this. I was talking about smootheness (to me, it seemed logical from the start. Also for ports and some others buildings.)

    For me, buildings without info boxes are: Itoo Ikki temples (LVL2 and further), ports starting from military ports, (will write further)
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Update: 1.99.5]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tepok View Post
    For the Religion with roads, the problem is that it saturates the info cards. That's why it bothers me, that's all.
    It's not "religion with roads", it's cultural influence within the regions (and this via certain infrastructures = the buildings), again i suggest to find background-info at the S2R+ forum (ie. the historical backgrounds thread)

    As for "info cards", that happens because CA didn't consider to make the info-boxes somehow scalable ( = not really dynamic along the building properties; while of course CA's provided vanilla stuff didn't concern it).
    The more content (effects or recruitment) i put into a building, the higher the possibility that the info-box display is problematic - i already removed formerly added stuff from high building tiers due to this, because under certain circumstances, the info-box isn't displayable.

    Edit
    For me, buildings without info boxes are: Itoo Ikki temples (LVL2 and further), ports starting from military ports,
    I have not these issues in my build. Maybe it's related to monitor sizes, i'm running a 24" full hd monitor, perhaps smaller ones have earlier issues for the building infobox display (who knows).
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Update: 1.99.5]

    1st post updated, compatibility info

    Compatible with: CA patches of 9th, 13th and 26th/27th May 2011, Ikko Ikki DLC, CA patch of 2nd July 2011 and CA patch of 28th July 2011 including the Sengoku Jidai DLC.
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    In the "Other revelant notes" thingy.

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.0]

    Just to make sure this All in one mod is compatible with extended STR? Also I use the 12 TPY mod. It never resulted in any crazy changes with DM or TROM, could I likely excpect with S2R?

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.0]

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph07 View Post
    Just to make sure this All in one mod is compatible with extended STR? Also I use the 12 TPY mod. It never resulted in any crazy changes with DM or TROM, could I likely excpect with S2R?
    I have no idea if it results in issues with S2R+, i don't use All In One or 12 TPY, nor have any of my beta testing members. Please check the according thread "Other Mods" in the S2R+ forum (org), it is linked in the first post here, to get a better idea about compatible mods with S2R+. But one hint already: S2R+ contains a startpos mod (esf), such a modding content can only be used one time.

    What you mention above should work with the normal S2R though.
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.0]

    This mods amazing. enjoying my uesegi campaign atm


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeizeVictus View Post
    This mods amazing. enjoying my uesegi campaign atm
    Hope you mean version 2.0.
    I'm happy, that somebody enjoys it, quite a lot of time went into that mod besides my busy RL.
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.0]

    Know it might be a lot to ask, but could you perhaps create a version of this mod that is compatible with Darth Mod, this mod seems very interesting but lacks the unit sizes of DM.

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.0]

    Quote Originally Posted by AtheistDane View Post
    Know it might be a lot to ask, but could you perhaps create a version of this mod that is compatible with Darth Mod, this mod seems very interesting but lacks the unit sizes of DM.
    Short answer: Nope. ... not possible, both mods are major campaign/battle modifications with their specific design - the S2R+ mod lacks not the DM unit sizes, it's a whole other approach.

    My tipp:
    You can increase the unit size by yourself, just in preferences, unit multiplier is at Ultra value 1 (S2R+ development/balancing base), try set it to above 1, if your pc is that strong try 2.

    While this will change the whole S2R+ balancing, and note, S2R+ has completely changed unit numbers, no unit number is as vanilla (with very few exceptions, i believe vanilla has also 120 for Ronin/Wako units, or? That fits randomly into my concept), some are far higher, ie. Yari Ashigaru, some are lower, ie. Samurai/Monks, just to put in realism also in this regard. Full stack armies (20 units) have in S2R+ ca. 3800 - 4000 men (but really depends on the unit mixture), so in battle 1:1 full army, you play with ca. 7800 men on these small S2 battlefields, isn't that enough? Many battles are of course below that, 0,5 to 0,75 stack sizes, some are more, if reinforcments/allies are nearby.

    Multiplier 2 example:
    A Yari Ashigaru unit has then 540 to 600 men, slight different per factions and Ashi type (S2R+ ultra 1 size is here: 270 - 300 men for Yari Ashi) - hint: A full stack of half Yari Ashigaru and else other mixed units is then ca. min 6500 to ca. max 8000 men per army on the battlefield per army, so in the whole 1:1 full stack armies ca. 13000-16000 men, depends just on the unit-mix ... much fun for your graphics card (and cpu) and all the according component-fans and powersupply, if you play that on ultra settings, but should work with a real good modern pc.
    ... not to speak about the ahistorical aspect of it (after all S2R+ has "realism" in its mod title), as battles of that scale where very rare occurences in the Sengoku Jidai period, written down in history books. Also i wonder how that plays out on the small TWS2 battlefields/castles. Maybe trying multiplier 1.5 or 1.25 could help you here (but as said it'll change the balancing).
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.0]

    Hi, downloaded your recent version 2.0, but in the S2R+ addons folder, both graphics and gameplay are empty.

    Could you check this out?

    Thankyou


    Edit: All s2r+ gameplay Addons are implemented into the S2R+ pack file.

    Nevermind. Forgot to read important stuff :X
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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.0]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci View Post
    Short answer: Nope. ... not possible, both mods are major campaign/battle modifications with their specific design - the S2R+ mod lacks not the DM unit sizes, it's a whole other approach.

    My tipp:
    You can increase the unit size by yourself, just in preferences, unit multiplier is at Ultra value 1 (S2R+ development/balancing base), try set it to above 1, if your pc is that strong try 2.

    While this will change the whole S2R+ balancing, and note, S2R+ has completely changed unit numbers, no unit number is as vanilla (with very few exceptions, i believe vanilla has also 120 for Ronin/Wako units, or? That fits randomly into my concept), some are far higher, ie. Yari Ashigaru, some are lower, ie. Samurai/Monks, just to put in realism also in this regard. Full stack armies (20 units) have in S2R+ ca. 3800 - 4000 men (but really depends on the unit mixture), so in battle 1:1 full army, you play with ca. 7800 men on these small S2 battlefields, isn't that enough? Many battles are of course below that, 0,5 to 0,75 stack sizes, some are more, if reinforcments/allies are nearby.

    Multiplier 2 example:
    A Yari Ashigaru unit has then 540 to 600 men, slight different per factions and Ashi type (S2R+ ultra 1 size is here: 270 - 300 men for Yari Ashi) - hint: A full stack of half Yari Ashigaru and else other mixed units is then ca. min 6500 to ca. max 8000 men per army on the battlefield per army, so in the whole 1:1 full stack armies ca. 13000-16000 men, depends just on the unit-mix ... much fun for your graphics card (and cpu) and all the according component-fans and powersupply, if you play that on ultra settings, but should work with a real good modern pc.
    ... not to speak about the ahistorical aspect of it (after all S2R+ has "realism" in its mod title), as battles of that scale where very rare occurences in the Sengoku Jidai period, written down in history books. Also i wonder how that plays out on the small TWS2 battlefields/castles. Maybe trying multiplier 1.5 or 1.25 could help you here (but as said it'll change the balancing).
    I understand, will give your mod a try later today

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.0]

    Nice mod just too few samuray units...this is Shogun a game about samurays...maybe at least like in Shogun realism in rest I like unit stats.

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    Default Re: Shogun2Realism+ (S2R+) | Extended S2R [Version 2.0]

    Quote Originally Posted by son of romans View Post
    Nice mod just too few samuray units...this is Shogun a game about samurays...maybe at least like in Shogun realism in rest I like unit stats.
    Well, S2R+ contains much more different Samurai and Monk units than S2R (and also much more different Ashigaru). Only the caps are more consistent with realism backgrounds in S2R+ vs. S2R.

    S2R+ is a realism/gameplay combination mod about the Sengoku Jidai period in Japan, not a Samurai mod. Reading a bit about the historical period will help to understand this modification.
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