Is Religion Outdated?

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

I've studied history for almost 6 years now and I've noticed: All religion ever has been is a method of propaganda used to sway the uneducated masses to a certain political standpoint, and to extort them for gold and valuable possesions. With modern education, and advances in science and massive amounts of eveidence against religious views of creation, is Religion truly outdated.

Just to let you know I used to be Protestant Christian, Roman Arian Christian (Sect 3), and now I'm Agnostic.

[(s)AINT]

Yes. Though people will still be in religions, it is decreasing every year.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Just to provide an example and some evidence, look at the crusades, and the catholic church: They extorted massive amounts of gold and told pretty much most of the population of Europe to go and take land from the mosloms, and it was intended to take power away from the Greek Orthodox chrurch and bring it back under Papal control.

[Garibaldi]

Actually the crusades were more about revenge. What you do not know, obviously, is what the Muslims did in the 600's-800's. When ever they entered a new city if you did not convert or pay humiliation tax you would be killed. In the hadif or the Koran it clearly says that Muhammad beheaded 600-700 people in a couple of days. I read more history both war and Religious than anyone here. (Its not even close)
Also if you look at history the reason we are where we are is because of it. Most scientists were Christians and they advanced us more and more. Einstein was Jewish, Copernicus was Catholic and there are many more examples.
Also atheism is a religion you may not realize it yet but it is. I am a former atheist and when i was saw it as a religion.
You want to say there is no evidence for a God, fine.
I challenge you to find evidence (real evidence you know facts) for there not being a god.

[Makrell]

no

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Well, are you going to back up your statement?

[Makrell]

From an atheist perspective religion seems outdated because they wiev it as "wrong" From a religious perspective religion is something for eternity and life forever. ANd eternity and life after death never gets outdated

[SPECTREtm]

From an atheist perspective religion seems outdated because they wiev it as "wrong" From a religious perspective religion is something for eternity and life forever. ANd eternity and life after death never gets outdated

Except that the last 100 years of human history has proven that Religion has played it's part and it is no longer a monopoly on power or the "truth"...

[Pontifex Maximus]

Religion is an outdated mode of 'scientific' explanation of the natural world. It has been eroding for centuries but seems now to be in its death throes. I consider religious zeal to be evidence of this.

From an atheist perspective religion seems outdated because they wiev it as "wrong" From a religious perspective religion is something for eternity and life forever. ANd eternity and life after death never gets outdated

And Hitler said his Reich would last a thousand years. reality/perception, which side will you be on?

[sdjenkyn]

Religion is an outdated mode of 'scientific' explanation of the natural world. It has been eroding for centuries but seems now to be in its death throes. I consider religious zeal to be evidence of this.



And Hitler said his Reich would last a thousand years. reality/perception, which side will you be on?

As a mode of explaining the natural word yes by a couple hundred years outdated but dont tell that to creationist. But as a means of helping society to grow and expand that would depend on which religion you choose to examine. If it wasnt for Christianity we wouldnt have the West as we know it and most of our individual freedoms and liberties.

[Pontifex Maximus]

If it wasnt for Christianity we wouldnt have the West as we know it and most of our individual freedoms and liberties.

Wrong. If it weren't for people questioning and rejecting christianity we wouldn't have individual freedoms. Christianity seeks to limit and do away with freedoms.

[sdjenkyn]

Wrong. If it weren't for people questioning and rejecting christianity we wouldn't have individual freedoms. Christianity seeks to limit and do away with freedoms.

Showing your bias doesnt make you right, just makes you biased. There is secular information you can look at but I still doubt that will change how you feel about religion. For you its a disease that needs to be eradicated. There was a time I felt the same way. Do the research anyway, might make you a little less bitter and trust me odds of being converted are slim to nil. Im still an atheist.

[SigniferOne]

If it weren't for people questioning and rejecting christianity we wouldn't have individual freedoms.

Hilarious, is that why Christians invented the inalienable rights of man, toleration of religion, and constitutional rule of law in the 17th century, and atheists -- that means you -- argue that there are no inalienable rights of man?

Nothing is unclear about that statement, but there are other hypotheses/postulations.

Sure, you can ignore Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein. You can listen to quack atheist scientists who try to postulate anti-theistic hypotheses and let their ideology and biases drive their science. But that wouldn't be rational, nor scientific, nor even just plain honest. Which is not surprising, because people like you want to abolish individual rights and the right and wrong, and in short, unthinkingly and without any knowledge of history, philosophy, or human nature, plunge and destroy the civilization that was built for you by Christians.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

Yes, as Nietzsche proclaimed, God is dead.

[Jack04]

Of course (Edit: individual) religions are outdated, they're old. Whether the concept of god is outdated or not, I'm not so sure.

[Magister Militum Flavius Aetius]

Of course (Edit: individual) religions are outdated, they're old. Whether the concept of god is outdated or not, I'm not so sure.

I'd actually kind of agree with that, Christianity, Islam, Bhuddism, Zoroastianism are all outdated but the concept of a higher power is not.

Also currently we don't have a concept of wether or not Steven Hawking and other scientists theories are true (It's only a theory) but remember Creationism is also only a THEORY. Science just has more eveidence backing it.

[Jack04]

Also currently we don't have a concept of wether or not Steven Hawking and other scientists theories are true (It's only a theory) but remember Creationism is also only a THEORY. Science just has more eveidence backing it.

Creationism is not a theory. Scientific theory is the closest thing you get to scientific fact.

[Treize]

Yes...

[Himster]

Religion is outdated and has been for a long long time. Theism however is a constant.

[Manco]

I wouldn't say religion is outdated, but perhaps its current incarnations are.

All the major religions around are all about do's and don't's in a very strict, codified manner; they're based in a world of absolutes. And that doesn't agree with modern appetites in my opinion, and hence for example all the pick'n mix Christians.
I mean, we're supposed to take half the Bible allegorically these days, while a century ago nearly everything was to be taken literal, and 5 centuries it was ALL literal. And even these days, some sects/denominations have entirely different views on what's literal and what allegorical. And I'm really at a loss to see who the decides what's what in a religion that revolves around absolute truths. It's certainly not god that decides, since the bloke hasn't shown himself in two millennia (depending on specific religion).

In my opinion deism might make a resurgence in popularity. It satisfies the need for a god-figure and everything it entails. But without all the BS surrounding it that's so easily corruptible even if a god really existed.