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    HUMAN SCIENTISTS FROM ANOTHER PLANET CREATED ALL LIFE ON EARTH USING DNA.

    Traces of this epic masterpiece of creation can be found in all religious writings and traditions. It is to them that Moses, Jesus, Buddha and Mohammed referred. It is now time to welcome them.


    WHAT HAPPENED?

    On the 13th of December 1973, French journalist Rael was contacted by a visitor from another planet, and asked to establish an Embassy to welcome these people back to Earth.

    The extra-terrestrial human being was a little over four feet tall, had long dark hair, almond shaped eyes, olive skin, and exuded harmony and humor. Rael recently described him by saying quite simply, "If he were to walk down a street in Japan, he would not even be noticed." In other words, they look like us, and we look like them. In fact, we were created "in their image" as explained in the Bible.

    He told Rael that:

    "We were the ones who designed all life on earth"
    "You mistook us for gods"
    "We were at the origin of your main religions"
    "Now that you are mature enough to understand this,we would like to enter official contact through an embassy"

    THE MESSAGES

    The messages dictated to Rael explain that life on Earth is not the result of random evolution, nor the work of a supernatural 'God'. It is a deliberate creation, using DNA, by a scientifically advanced people who made human beings literally "in their image" -- what one can call "scientific creationism." References to these scientists and their work, as well as to their symbol of infinity, can be found in the ancient texts of many cultures. For example, in Genesis, the Biblical account of Creation, the word "Elohim" has been mistranslated as the singular word "God", but it is actually a plural word which means "those who came from the sky", and the singular is "Eloha" (also known as "Allah"). Indigenous cultures all over the world remember these "gods" who came from the sky, including natives of Africa (Dogon, Twa, etc.), America, Asia, Australia, and Europe.

    Leaving our humanity to progress by itself, the Elohim nevertheless maintained contact with us via prophets including Buddha, Moses, Mohammed, etc., all specially chosen and educated by them. The role of the prophets was to progressively educate humanity through the Messages they taught, each adapted to the culture and level of understanding at the time. They were also to leave traces of the Elohim so that we would be able to recognize them as our Creators and fellow human beings when we had advanced enough scientifically to understand them. Jesus, whose father was an Eloha, was given the task of spreading these messages throughout the world in preparation for this crucial time in which we are now privileged to live: the predicted Age Of Revelation.

    And most important of all, download and read the free e-book, "Intelligent Design - Message from the Designers" the book which will revolutionize your thinking, transform your life and which is already changing the world.

    For more information visit http://www.rael.org and discover the truth about our origins.

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    I'd say this was advertisement if that wasn't free. We'll see.

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    yea religious spam. deleted!
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    if its such a high and mighty religion why do they want you to "donate" all your money and posession to them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somethindarker
    if its such a high and mighty religion why do they want you to "donate" all your money and posession to them?
    Not true. All donations are voluntary. Please, do objective research before posting such comments.

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    Cool! Aliens! Who created the Aliens?

    At least Scientology was original in its wackyness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somethindarker View Post
    yea religious spam. deleted!
    Not religious.

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    Where did the Aliens come from then?
    Given any number of random, even contradictory metaphysical postulates, a justification, however absurd, can be logically developed.

    Mapping advances anybody can use. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39035

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdh
    Where did the Aliens come from then?
    From the FAQ section of the Raelian Movement web site

    Q. Who Created the Elohim?

    A. If we believed in God, we might ask "Who created God". If we believed in evolution and the "Big Bang" we might ask "where did this matter and energy come from that created the big-bang?".For the Elohim, it is the same - they were created by people coming from the sky as were their creators. It's an infinite cycle of life. One day scientists from earth will also go to another planet and populate it.

    This and many more questions can be answered from http://www.rael.org by reading the summary, checking out the FAQ section and downloading the free e-book "Intelligent design: Message from the Designers".

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    Hey, don't make fun of him because his religion is different. Its not polite, its not mature, and its not intelligent.

    Raelian, I as a Christian, respectfully disagree with the premises of your religion. It seems your religion is an attempt to explain life without the use of a God, and to incorporate as many religions as possible. I think your premises are flawed, because though there are similarites between the teachings of the first Buddha and Jesus the Christ, it seems the aliens, being creatures of rationale and logic, would have used a Roman Priest, rather than an obscure Jewish carpenter to carry their message.
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    wow....


    that was....interesting


    Very creative. I respect my right to disagree with his views but nonetheless welcome him to this board.

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    shades of scientology?
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    Any Theist that criticises this in any way is a complete, worthless hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atheist Peace
    Any Theist that criticises this in any way is a complete, worthless hypocrite.
    Huh??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    Huh??
    His religion is just as valid as any other. It's just as rational, just as logical, and just as likely to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atheist Peace
    Any Theist that criticises this in any way is a complete, worthless hypocrite.

    Each religion needs to be judged on its own merits not in comparison to other religions, Ill invote Lee's often overused catch phrase in posts here. Just because one religion is 'valid' doesnt make every religion valid simply because it calls itself a religion. I could declare my Pepsi can sitting right here is my 'god' does that make it a valid religion? Raelian by itself on its own merit as a religion is nothing more then nonsense crap, obviously imo but frankly Id consider it insulting to Islam, Christianity, Judiasm and what have you to speak of this sci fi crap in same breath as those religions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig
    Each religion needs to be judged on its own merits not in comparison to other religions, Ill invote Lee's often overused catch phrase in posts here. Just because one religion is 'valid' doesnt make every religion valid simply because it calls itself a religion. I could declare my Pepsi can sitting right here is my 'god' does that make it a valid religion? Raelian by itself on its own merit as a religion is nothing more then nonsense crap, obviously imo but frankly Id consider it insulting to Islam, Christianity, Judiasm and what have you to speak of this sci fi crap in same breath as those religions.
    Why? What exactly makes those religions more valid, or superior, or any more likely to be true than this religion? I sure hope you won't just appeal to popularity about this. :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atheist Peace
    Why? What exactly makes those religions more valid, or superior, or any more likely to be true than this religion? I sure hope you won't just appeal to popularity about this. :wink:
    Because whether we like it or not those 'other' religions (Christianity, Islam, Judiasm) draw upoin hundreds and hundreds of years of human existences, tradition, myth, legend and culture. Their concepts, ideas whether borrowed from even older religions or not are deeply embedded into our society and culture. They have been debated, argued, picked apart for centuries by scholars they have for the most part stood the test of time to compare them to Raelian which seems little more then a get rich PR attempt is insulting and Im not even religious. Maybe in 300 years we can come back Raelian will have had a far reaching impact on culture, society and we can have this discussion (yeah right!) but right now? No thanks Btw what makes it valid in your eyes? I hereby declare you a god, you created the world and all human beings after landing on earth 10,000 years ago Im founding the religion of Athepeacism with you as its god...is it now as valid as christianity? I dont think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig
    Because whether we like it or not those 'other' religions (Christianity, Islam, Judiasm) draw upoin hundreds and hundreds of years of human existences, tradition, myth, legend and culture. Their concepts, ideas whether borrowed from even older religions or not are deeply embedded into our society and culture. They have been debated, argued, picked apart for centuries by scholars they have for the most part stood the test of time to compare them to Raelian which seems little more then a get rich PR attempt is insulting and Im not even religious. Maybe in 300 years we can come back Raelian will have had a far reaching impact on culture, society and we can have this discussion (yeah right!) but right now? No thanks Btw what makes it valid in your eyes? I hereby declare you a god, you created the world and all human beings after landing on earth 10,000 years ago Im founding the religion of Athepeacism with you as its god...is it now as valid as christianity? I dont think so
    Of course it is as valid. Validity is determined by one thing. That one thing is the possibility of it being true. Every religion is equally rational (ie. they're all totally irrational), and therefore, equally as valid. If you can show me why Christianity is more plausible than this religion, then fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig
    Because whether we like it or not those 'other' religions (Christianity, Islam, Judiasm) draw upoin hundreds and hundreds of years of human existences, tradition, myth, legend and culture. Their concepts, ideas whether borrowed from even older religions or not are deeply embedded into our society and culture. They have been debated, argued, picked apart for centuries by scholars they have for the most part stood the test of time to compare them to Raelian which seems little more then a get rich PR attempt is insulting and Im not even religious. Maybe in 300 years we can come back Raelian will have had a far reaching impact on culture, society and we can have this discussion (yeah right!) but right now? No thanks Btw what makes it valid in your eyes? I hereby declare you a god, you created the world and all human beings after landing on earth 10,000 years ago Im founding the religion of Athepeacism with you as its god...is it now as valid as christianity? I dont think so
    This religion to draws upon hundreds of hundreds of years of human existences, myth, legend and culture. It does borrow ideas from older religions.
    If it hasnt been debated and argued and picked apart from scholars for centuries yet, does that make it a less valid religion? Do you mean that Islam, christianity at start werent valid as they didnt have went thru this process? do you mean that can never come new valid religions because they have to debated upon for centuries?

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