More than 20 units in army Single player Campaign-Success

[Dooz]

The smaller unit icon mod seems to be made for 80 unit stacks, is there one for 40 with a bit larger icons? For the campaign UI that is.

[Lord Davn]

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will the 40 unit mod work for ntw3? and will it work with the new innovations on 4.0?

As you can see from the previous disscussions here, we've had numerous inquiries about adding 40 unit armies to our NTW3 SP Campaign mod. I promise to take a good look at it with our SPC mod team and see if we can make it work properly.

[zonks40]

I can confirm that it does work, though after installing it, the NTW3 launcher removes it from the User_Script, the only way around it for me is to run the NTW.exe and NTW3 runs fine with the 40 unit mod.

[Lord Davn]

I can confirm that it does work, though after installing it, the NTW3 launcher removes it from the User_Script, the only way around it for me is to run the NTW.exe and NTW3 runs fine with the 40 unit mod.

Glad to hear that its working, we'll chat more by pm to discuss the setup etc.

[A_B]

40 units on this mod would be great. Forty units seems much more epic, and this was an epic period. I've been using forty unit in Darthmod, and it would be hard to go back to twenty.

[zonks40]

40 units on this mod would be great. Forty units seems much more epic, and this was an epic period. I've been using forty unit in Darthmod, and it would be hard to go back to twenty.

The thing I like about it the most is not only the epic scale, but if you commit to a strategy, and things go wrong, it does not mean the end of the battle, you have reserves you can bring up.
Just like Napoleon said in the movie Waterloo, "I lost the battle of Marengo at 6, and I won it back at 7", or something similar, the same thing can happen, a mistake does not necessarily mean defeat.

[The Conquistadore]

Hey, I am a modder, (though not a very good one) and I just got the release of Albtraums UI mod which includes both the original and the modified version, I opened it up with Hexeditor, and analyzed it comparing the changes, but I can't find any real pattern to it, in fact the numbers in the modified version are actually smaller than those in the original, I would really appreciate it if someone could tell me how to actually make the changes myself. I am currently trying to make it so that instead of an 80 unit card unit panel, it is only a 40 unit card panel, just to make it a little easier because I am only using 40 unit cards and it is a little silly to have half the unit panel empty. If someone can it would be even better if they could post a download link to change it from 80 to 40. Hope to hear from someone soon.

Thank you for your kind attention.

[Lord Davn]

If someone can it would be even better if they could post a download link to change it from 80 to 40.

Sorry but we did not have any success in changing the User Interface (UI) for the unit card panel. It is possible but quite complex from my understanding.

[beo76]

Sorry but we did not have any success in changing the User Interface (UI) for the unit card panel. It is possible but quite complex from my understanding.

Maybe you could ask Albtraum23 permission to use his mod for the unit cards?

We will look into the 40 unit armies as soon as time permits, right now I need a drink ~Lord Davn

[fireship4]

Yes, I have been using an army size of 80 in the current version and I had no problems. I heard that 80 was the maximum, but I don't know first-hand.

There are instructions on how to edit your campaign save file to do this elsewhere on this site.

EDIT: This reply was merged into this thread from another.

[Cromagnon2]

Thank you for your work

Anyone any success with 40 unit cards?

[Ragimund Von Wallat]

you can put Albtraum23's work in any mod you want (for your personal use i mean) but the problem is that if you group unit cards disapear and it become useless anyway.I just play with 40 units ...after a while you get used to not have the cards.

[Cromagnon2]

Yes i got it to work. But those unit cards are really tiny. so i prefer to play with unit cards disabled.
Also 40 units will not embark on ships, which is a good thing for the human player, but i don't know how the AI will handle.

[fireship4]

They will embark on a ship if you click on the ship while having the army selected. The problem is only if you do it in a port with the two windows where you move troops back and forth.

[Heisenberg12345]

How do i get 40+ units i read on here you need someone elses mod to do it but had no luck finding it, i already tried the darthmod way of editing the save game with no luck i realize there is already a thread pertaining to this but i posted in it almost a month ago and no reply. Thanks

[RexJayden]

40+ unit army tutorial for the NTW3 mod

1. Start a new campaign, do not make any moves, save the file and exit the game.

2. Download and extract the ESF editor (we use the 1.4.5 version for the NTW mods): http://www.mediafire.com/download/rl...itor_1.4.5.rar

3. Exract to an empty folder and Run the EsfEditor 1.4.5

4. Open the save_games file as shown below and pick your new save file:


5. Use the ESF 1.4.5 editor to change the value as shown below:


6. Now change ONLY the 8th value from the top from 20 to 41 and hit ENTER and the number should turn red. Do not change the 9th value.

7. Save the new file and you are ready to play the campaign with 40+ unit armies

Important: You do this only at the start of a new campaign!


**I got this from liquid8or over at STEAM. Enjoy, Nice to know it works on NTW as well.

[Lord Davn]

41 UNITS TUTORIAL:

Here are some modified save_games for players to try using RexJayden's procedure that was posted earlier today. These will start you at the beginning of turn one (no moves were made) with the 41+ unit army feature enabled. Give it a try and see how it works

1.) Download the rar files for one of the major factions that you's like to test play. Extract the save file to the save_games folder as shown below.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Austria 40+unit start: http://www.mediafire.com/download/2l...nits_start.rar
Britain 40+unit start: http://www.mediafire.com/download/se...nits_start.rar
France 40+unit start: http://www.mediafire.com/download/yg...unit_start.rar
Prussia 40+unit start: http://www.mediafire.com/download/68...unit_start.rar
Russia 40+unit start: http://www.mediafire.com/download/4h...unit_start.rar

2.) Start the NTW3 SP Campaign game from the desktop launcher, go to the LOAD GAME menu and select the save file that you just placed there.


RexJayden's procedure appears to work for the NTW3 mod however the recruitment bar can only show 20 units at one time so your full army is not visible on the campaign map. We suggest you play with medium size units to start with to see what your cpu can handle. REMEMBER the original NTW vanilla mod was designed for short, quick battles with a few units. The custom NTW3 units & stats WILL push the limits of your cpu & graphics card.
You are testing a new modification for the NTW3 campaign, there are no guarantees so expect some battle crashes






The AI also makes good use of the 40+ unit armies. The last five Austrian units are faded and will probably appear as reinforcements when one of your other 41 units on the battlefield is routed or destroyed.



The recruitment bar is presently limited to only display 20 units, but perhaps there's also a procedure to fix this

[Gironne]

You should find a way to modify the UI in the folder template : battle unit card, etc... . Already found a way to open luac and understand... ^^

I reviewed the NTW workshop threads for info on this but no one has had any success changing the UI unit bar in the campaign game Lord Davn

[Nimitstexan]

I am missing something. Why change the limit to "41," instead of just "40" or "80"?

The 41 unit was RexJayden's original recommendation. I believe you can adjust it to any number up to 80 (which is the upper limit the game can handle) ~Lord Davn

[roy64]

Hasn't anybody tried Albtraum23's 40 unitcards mod & Albtraum23 deployment zones pack. Both work alright with me.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...up-to-40-units
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...nits-perfectly