More than 20 units in army Single player Campaign-Success

**waldopbarnstormer** · May 25, 2011, 06:55 PM

This was first achieved by Julle Cesar so all credit to him for finding out how to do it.

To have more than 20 units in a stack: open 'saved game' in EsfEditor, CAMPAIGN_ENV / CAMPAIGN_MODEL, you will find 2 numbers with 20, upper is land and lower is ship'.

Just enter the number you need (don't know whether there are any restrictions, didn't test it) instead of 20.

It DOES work in campaign, and the limit is probably more than 80 units from each side (I am currently playing with stacks of 40, but have not reached this number yet).

Still in testing in my current british SP campaign to see what the ai does, might need to lower the unit costs a bit but will keep you posted with updates on my progress.

The only downside like in historical battles is that you can't see the extra unit cards for 21+ units so you might want to make a note of what units you have in a stack

**Liberalis Bellatricus** · May 26, 2011, 12:11 PM

Thanks for the update. We'll definitely take a look into this for SP.

**waldopbarnstormer** · May 26, 2011, 03:47 PM

I have been testing it in a vanilla SP campaign so far and I have fought against the ai with armies of 30 units per side. I have also found that when a rebel army is raised in a province you own that army starts with more than 20 units.

example.
I am playing britain in my test campaign and I sent an army of 23 units over to capture normandy. A couple of turns later the province rebelled against my rule and a rebel army with 22 units was spawned.

The only problem I have found so far is that ships can only transport 20 units at a time so you have to split you army up for transport. I like to think of it as a quartermasters issue to make things more historical and the logistical difficulties a navy would have transporting a whole army and keeping them supplied.

**DunkFunk** · May 27, 2011, 03:49 AM

WICKED

rep to you and Julle Cesar

**waldopbarnstormer** · May 27, 2011, 05:44 PM

thanks for the rep

**St3vo T** · July 30, 2012, 08:36 AM

if you dont send the men to a port to embark eg. just get them to go to ship from coast you can carry 80 stack army. them you just get another ship that has mp and you send him to the fleet, then send the first ship out of the fleet and the remaining ship will have mp and your invasion army ready to bugger the french

**St3vo T** · July 30, 2012, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by waldopbarnstormer

I have been testing it in a vanilla SP campaign so far and I have fought against the ai with armies of 30 units per side. I have also found that when a rebel army is raised in a province you own that army starts with more than 20 units.

example.
I am playing britain in my test campaign and I sent an army of 23 units over to capture normandy. A couple of turns later the province rebelled against my rule and a rebel army with 22 units was spawned.

The only problem I have found so far is that ships can only transport 20 units at a time so you have to split you army up for transport. I like to think of it as a quartermasters issue to make things more historical and the logistical difficulties a navy would have transporting a whole army and keeping them supplied.

if you dont send the men to a port to embark eg. just get them to go to ship from coast you can carry 80 stack army. them you just get another ship that has mp and you send him to the fleet, then send the first ship out of the fleet and the remaining ship will have mp and your invasion army ready to bugger the french

**freelancerX** · May 27, 2011, 11:57 PM

this has totally renewed my interest in napoleon! thanks!

just an FYI this also works in Shogun, however the game just crashed on me i had set the number to 35 and was probably using about 30 units, I am also using darthmod so i might just turn the unit size down from ultra to high maybe that way ill avoid crashes.

**ronchas** · May 31, 2011, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by freelancerX

this has totally renewed my interest in napoleon! thanks!

exactly the same...it´s a new vision to me playing NTW with all these cards,increases realism to me a lot

double rep+

**WarnerVH** · June 02, 2011, 07:49 PM

Ok, call me dumb. And then explain the location of the file to open please. Do you mean the main NTW data folder, or the C:\Documents and Settings\X\Application Data\The Creative Assembly\saved game folder? And then open a random saved game with the editor?

Please explain a little more.

Thanks!

Cheers!

**Redrum** · June 03, 2011, 05:07 AM

How about posting some pics with your 40 units stacked together, in a campaign map and in a battle...

**123f** · June 03, 2011, 04:28 PM

Sorry for my English WRITE THROUGH TRANSLATOR. The question is: Can I edit CONSERVATION "save_multiplaer" I Probyval file opens but does not get to edit it. WHAT TO DO?

**Fabricus** · June 04, 2011, 08:54 AM

Wow, this worked really well. Totally awesome discovery!

**waldopbarnstormer** · June 04, 2011, 07:32 PM

WarnerVH if you use the esf editor 1.4.8 and in file go to open saved game it should take you to the Shogun 2 saved games folder. From there just go back to creative assembly then Napoleon then save_games and you will find your saves. Just open one then edit the numbers in CAMPAIGN_ENV, CAMPAIGN_MODEL.

123f, I cannot understand what you are asking to do, sorry. maybe the above advice will help.

I will get on to posting some screenshots from my current LME mod game.

**WarnerVH** · June 04, 2011, 10:23 PM

Thanks, I think that is what I needed.

Kudos for the help!
1+ Rep

**osean** · June 05, 2011, 05:40 AM