View Poll Results: Would you like to play with Albania at the time of Skenderbej?

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    This box: view · talk · edit Main article: History of Albania
    The History of Albania emerges from the prehistoric stage from the 4th century BC, with early records of Illyria in Greco-Roman historiography. The modern territory of Albania has no counterpart in antiquity, comprising parts of the Roman provinces of Dalmatia (southern Illyricum), Macedonia (particularly Epirus Nova), and Moesia Superior. The territory remained under Roman (Byzantine) control until the Slavic migrations of the 7th century, and was integrated into the Bulgarian Empire in the 9th century.
    The territorial nucleus of the Albanian state forms in the Middle Ages, as the Principality of Arbër and the Kingdom of Albania. The first records of the Albanian people as a distinct ethnicity also date to this period. In 15th century there was a series of confrontation between Albanians led by Scanderbeg and the advancing Ottoman Empire. Soon after the death of Scanderbeg the organized resistance ceased and the country became part of Ottoman Empire. It remained under Ottoman control as part of the Rumelia province until 1912, when the first independent Albanian state was declared. The formation of an Albanian national consciousness dates to the latter 19th century and is part of the larger phenomenon of rise of nationalism under the Ottoman Empire. A short-lived monarchy (1914–1925) was succeeded by an even shorter-lived first Albanian Republic (1925–1928), to be replaced by another monarchy (1928–1939), which was annexed by Fascist Italy during World War II. After the collapse of the Axis powers, Albania became a communist state, the Socialist People's Republic of Albania, which was dominated by Enver Hoxha (d. 1985). Hoxha's political heir Ramiz Alia oversaw the disintegration of the "Hoxhaist" state during the wider collapse of the Eastern Bloc in the later 1980s.
    The communist regime collapsed in 1990, and the Republic of Albania was founded in 1991. The old communist party was routed in the elections of March 1992, amid economic collapse and social unrest. An economical crises spread in the late 1996 following the failure of some Ponzi schemes operating in the country, peaking in the 1997 in an armed rebellion, that led to another mass emigration of Albanians, mostly to Italy, Greece, Switzerland, Germany and to North America.
    In 1999 the country was affected by Kosovo War, when a great number of Albanians from Kosovo found refuge in Albania.
    Albania became a full member of NATO in 2009. The country is applying to join the European Union.




    Some pictures of the albanian castle :


    Castel of Shkodër .







    Castle of Elbasan .







    Castle of Krujë .










    Castle of Gjirokastra .









    Castle of Janina .





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    Default Re: Albania

    Basically a province of Bulgaria throughout the time period of SS. So no.

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    Well i would like to play it but there are a multitude of more important factions i like to try first

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    No. doesnt have a huge impact during the time of SS

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    Default Re: Albania

    Maybe a sub mod .
    But i post this thread for presenting my contry in first for who forgotten it .


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    No, I'd like other factions much more.

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    Default Re: Albania

    Basically, if I would come and propose Finland to be playable: Not important enough in the campaign scale.

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    Indeed, we want Finland! But no Albania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kameraden View Post
    Indeed, we want Finland! But no Albania.
    well, I wasn't saying that. We're not that important in grand campaign, but definitely in a submod about baltic sea could feature us... getting the message, Caesar Clivus?

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    I don't see any use for this faction. Bulgaria and Serbia were much more powerful factions on that area.

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    I've noticed a trend of nationalist people from the Balkans, especially Albanians who all want to see their country represented in the game. Why cant people just accept the fact that their country just wasnt historically significant in that time period? Just because you WANT to take a small, insignificant Medieval state and conquer Europe with it doesn't mean it should be implemented in a mod that has tried very hard to depict the the era realistically and historically. Countries like Serbia, Albania etc. aren't represented because there just simply arent enough faction slots to add every smaller Medieval state to the game. The main thing when determining which factions make it is based upon which had the most political/military/economic power in that time period and could have expanded their territories/have an impact on the geo-political affairs of the areas around them and beyond. So if we go by this, Medieval Albania just simply doesn't make the cut and doesn't come anywhere close. As far as im aware there are only 2 slots left for factions and there are far more important factions that had a greater impact that could be included. Such as the Abbasid Caliphate, Georgia and Bulgaria for the early period. Maybe KK should mod in Australia so i can play as the English and conquer it 500 years earlier?.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISA Gunner View Post
    I've noticed a trend of nationalist people from the Balkans, especially Albanians who all want to see their country represented in the game. Why cant people just accept the fact that their country just wasnt historically significant in that time period? Just because you WANT to take a small, insignificant Medieval state and conquer Europe with it doesn't mean it should be implemented in a mod that has tried very hard to depict the the era realistically and historically. Countries like Serbia, Albania etc. aren't represented because there just simply arent enough faction slots to add every smaller Medieval state to the game. The main thing when determining which factions make it is based upon which had the most political/military/economic power in that time period and could have expanded their territories/have an impact on the geo-political affairs of the areas around them and beyond. So if we go by this, Medieval Albania just simply doesn't make the cut and doesn't come anywhere close. As far as im aware there are only 2 slots left for factions and there are far more important factions that had a greater impact that could be included. Such as the Abbasid Caliphate, Georgia and Bulgaria for the early period. Maybe KK should mod in Australia so i can play as the English and conquer it 500 years earlier?.....
    this!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guyverlance View Post
    this!!
    Haha this is only racism this thing are not accepted in this thread sorry for your ignorance

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Hand View Post
    Haha this is only racism this thing are not accepted in this thread sorry for your ignorance
    It's not racism, because it has nothing to do with races. Or when did albanians become their own race?

    Correct word would be nationalism, but the original post wasn't about that either, It just stated that Albania wasn't important enough to be added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISA Gunner View Post
    I've noticed a trend of nationalist people from the Balkans, especially Albanians who all want to see their country represented in the game. Why cant people just accept the fact that their country just wasnt historically significant in that time period? Just because you WANT to take a small, insignificant Medieval state and conquer Europe with it doesn't mean it should be implemented in a mod that has tried very hard to depict the the era realistically and historically. Countries like Serbia, Albania etc. aren't represented because there just simply arent enough faction slots to add every smaller Medieval state to the game. The main thing when determining which factions make it is based upon which had the most political/military/economic power in that time period and could have expanded their territories/have an impact on the geo-political affairs of the areas around them and beyond. So if we go by this, Medieval Albania just simply doesn't make the cut and doesn't come anywhere close. As far as im aware there are only 2 slots left for factions and there are far more important factions that had a greater impact that could be included. Such as the Abbasid Caliphate, Georgia and Bulgaria for the early period. Maybe KK should mod in Australia so i can play as the English and conquer it 500 years earlier?.....
    I will only say one word to reply to your post: Scotland. Enough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Hand View Post
    Haha this is only racism this thing are not accepted in this thread sorry for your ignorance
    That is not racism, it is simply stating the fact that the country wasn't important during the timeframe of SS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serbian Hussar View Post
    I will only say one word to reply to your post: Scotland. Enough said.
    Scotland was an important kingdom, it remained independant from England for hundreds of years and was relatively important in medieval history. Without Scotland as an ally France could have been taken over by the English and history would have been a lot different.

    Not trying to offend people here, just stating some facts.

    I would btw like this as a submod, but as a faction in SS they were IMO not important enough (maybe Bulgaria or Serbia instead).

    Seriously, I think that if you would really want this faction implemented (as you state many people want it to) gather a team and start working. Saying you haven't got the capacity is not a valid argument. I taught myself to mod, with the help of countless tutorials and a mentor.
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    Default Re: Albania

    The issue here is that serbia and bulgaria both have good arguments and was about as significant. Albania is out of the question though

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    Maybe in Tsardoms, but definitely not in SS. It is ahistorical and didn't pay much importance. Also, Serbia or Bulgaria should definitely be put in SS, but no other Balkan faction. But in a submod, all it's possible
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    Voted.

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