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    I do realise that 9/11 was a tragedy that will never be forgotten in the minds and souls of the victims and citizens of the United States. It was most likely, the worst tragedy in the United States, but did we, the United States, over do it? Things just as tragic and dramatic are happening all over the world and things even worse are taking place. We forged a war that could lead to possible a World War 3 because of something we could have prevented.

    There is enough proof supporting the fact that 9/11 could have been prevented, although, I do not why the government did not act immediately. The point is, did we over dramaticize 9/11 and the war against "terror"?

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    Adnin, I support you fully. However, if I am right, this thread will bring only trolls and flames. Much like the Lord of the Rings

    Anywhooo, yes, the 9/11 disaster was overdone. However, it was still a disaster, and it needed revenge.

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    Considering the fact that so many tragerdies around the world are overlooked it was overdone. The main reason it was overdone, is because it was the first attack on the US mainland on that scale ever(? don't know, not sure, sorry if this is worng). In the UK when 7/7 happened, we did not react as over the top as the Us did to 9/11. This is probably because we are used to terrorism, we have lived with the IRA for 30 years remember. I feel it was the shock of something like this happening on such a scale. in the US, that caused the reaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusted
    Considering the fact that so many tragerdies around the world are overlooked it was overdone. The main reason it was overdone, is because it was the first attack on the US mainland on that scale ever(? don't know, not sure, sorry if this is worng). In the UK when 7/7 happened, we did not react as over the top as the Us did to 9/11. This is probably because we are used to terrorism, we have lived with the IRA for 30 years remember. I feel it was the shock of something like this happening on such a scale. in the US, that caused the reaction.
    Exactly, it was an event in the US unlike any other event to happen on US soil and not to demean 7/7 but that was minor in scale compared to 9/11 so the shock value of it is much much much higher. I mean I dont think you can watch the video of the plane hitting the WTC and not feel a chill from it, just the imagine of the act was so incredibly large that it probably would have been impossible to not 'over do' it. To put it in perspective I think a train attack like 7/7 would have been much less effect on the US even if the scale was bigger mainly because plane crashing into a building is just so much more surreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusted
    Considering the fact that so many tragedies around the world are overlooked it was overdone. The main reason it was overdone, is because it was the first attack on the US mainland on that scale ever(? don't know, not sure, sorry if this is wrong). In the UK when 7/7 happened, we did not react as over the top as the Us did to 9/11. This is probably because we are used to terrorism, we have lived with the IRA for 30 years remember. I feel it was the shock of something like this happening on such a scale. in the US, that caused the reaction.
    I think we, Americans, are a little spoiled. We have enjoyed ourselves with luxury for so long, we have forgotten to see that other countries are going through worse troubles, and when something like this occurs, we get all ****** and stomp around buring the **** out of countries which were not involved(Iraq) and create false reasons to invade and destroy them and cause the same amount of deaths the terrorist attacks did.

    Although, possibly the worst thing in our history was the war of 1812 when the British rampaged up to Washington D.C. and destroyed the White House, amoung many buildings.

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    Its the modern Pearl Harbor. America used to think it was safer surrounded by two Oceans, there best friend Canada, and Mexico. On 9/12 that thought of safety abruptly ended.
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    America has caused more deaths than the terrorits did, by a long shot.
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    NO we didn't

    not in any way.

    3,000 Americans died and we punished those responsible, that is not overreacting. Overreacting would be something like invading every single muslim country in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudd The Crazy
    NO we didn't

    not in any way.

    3,000 Americans died and we punished those responsible, that is not overreacting. Overreacting would be something like invading every single muslim country in the world.
    Or invading a Muslim country with no connection to the whole affair while xconducting diplomatic and economic relations with one which was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusted
    America has caused more deaths than the terrorits did, by a long shot.
    I know, and is the main reason why I think we should try something new, rather than bomb the damn place to dust.

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    How were the people in Iraq responsible? Despite what the current Us administration claims, and due to all the evidence to the contrary, i do not think there was a link between Saddam and Al-Qaeda. Whilst the invasion of Afghanistan was justified due to the Taliban, the country is still not in a stable state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterAdnin
    I do realise that 9/11 was a tragedy that will never be forgotten in the minds and souls of the victims and citizens of the United States. It was most likely, the worst tragedy in the United States, but did we, the United States, over do it? Things just as tragic and dramatic are happening all over the world and things even worse are taking place. We forged a war that could lead to possible a World War 3 because of something we could have prevented.

    There is enough proof supporting the fact that 9/11 could have been prevented, although, I do not why the government did not act immediately. The point is, did we over dramaticize 9/11 and the war against "terror"?

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    no, your overdoing it by saying that.

    The attack on the twin towers, the pentagon etc etc could be considered an act of war, which it is by the terrorists....
    Its a real 'massacre' an attack on civilians..and people say some of the 'massacres' the british carried out during the impirialist(sp..its late and im tired) age were evil...they didnt kill thousands for no reason whatsoever....

    world war 3? i dont think so..If islam wants to make it ww3 then ww3 it is though..

    tragic things are happening all over the world, america sends great aid to most if not all of these bad places (if its allowed to anyway..)

    everyone have bad and good times..thats life..

    i dont particuly like america and i am defending them here

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    "Although, possibly the worst thing in our history was the war of 1812 when the British rampaged up to Washington D.C. and destroyed the White House, amoung many buildings."

    I would suggest the worst disaster was the one which ruined the most lives. 9/11 is up there because it managed to ruin not only many american lives but many foreign ones too. The dead civillians of iraq/afghanistan would PROBABLY still be alive if 9/11 didnt happen, not to mention the brutal situation at guantanamo.

    "an act of war, which it is by the terrorists...."

    Your making the mistake of having THE TERRORISTS. As some kind of unified state. They all do there crimes for different reasons and none of them are responsible for the actions of other terrorist organisations. Otherwise you could just as easily blame the IRA for 9/11

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    The things we did against civilians in places like India during the empire were massacres, need i remind you of Amristar? Where British soldiers killed 379 according to official sources, or 1800 according to a civilian doctor. The crowd wasn't even given a warning.
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    We need to stop using the word - "terrorist". There are hundreds of terrorist organizations out there, not affecting America, yet they have declared a war upon them. This, in itself, is overdoing it.

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    Ya, and it provides a reason for the US policy... just same as the Europeans did in China in 19th and early 20th century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus-Popat
    We need to stop using the word - "terrorist". There are hundreds of terrorist organizations out there, not affecting America, yet they have declared a war upon them. This, in itself, is overdoing it.
    You would rather call Al-Quada freedom fighters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusted
    The things we did against civilians in places like India during the empire were massacres, need i remind you of Amristar? Where British soldiers killed 379 according to official sources, or 1800 according to a civilian doctor. The crowd wasn't even given a warning.
    as i said, those kind of things pale in comparison to 9/11, and 9/11 is modern day, where things like that are completely unacceptable. (not saying the massacres in india were acceptable, but they were a little more normal back then..)

    for the india incident: i think maybe the soldiers marching into the area May have given them a good idea of to break up and go home?

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    The only part about 9/11 that I think is overdone is the overexposure it has received by the media. I mean for the love of God they are already making 2 movies about it and you can already see one of the trailers on quicktime.com, the other movie stars Nicholas Cage I think. Anyways I am so sick of hearing of 9/11. It was a tragedy. It was horrible, people dies who were innocent. But life goes on. If I sound like I don't care it's just because everyone seems to link everything to 9/11 in some way. Then there is the 9/11 comission, they are the most selfish inconsiderate breadsticks I know. I mean what do they do, they get up on a pedestal and start investigating how we should've reacted to this horrible disaster at 8 in the morning as if it were routine. They show no respect to the brave firefighters and police who risked their lives and died in there, instead they just point and say "see what they should have done is this and this and that". And then there's the families who lost one person (or 2 in some cases but usually a brother or a husband) and want the world in return. People die all the time and their families don't get nothing, and guess what they were innocent too. With all that's going on in the world and all the troubles we have these people can't think of anything better that to replace the whole WTC site with a giant memorial. These people were'nt soldiers, they weren't heroes, they went to work one day and never came home. That's it. Pearl Harbor kids didn't get that level of a ceremonial edifice. Why they? Smack in the middle of NYC. Pardon my bitterness I just had to get it out, I live in NYC and this is grinding my last nerve. The TWC deserves to be exactly what it was if not greater. Otherwise it'a like the terrorists won...

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