Indians!!! leave me alone

[the persian Immortal]

ok I play as the sassanids and I just can't get rid of the indians they seem unfairly stron and overpowered, ther sassanids biggest rivals/treats was the romans in the west and the white huns(persians mention them as the turanians) in the east . but the india just dominates you even if you play an normal campaign, they don't have more than just one front , their armys incloudes many many archers wich is still fairly strong, what isn't fair is their strong cav (which isn't historycall accurate in my opinian) and their armoured elephants you just going to watch your elite troops flee before their charge.

so IF there is any good way to deal with them please note other wise I think the developers should take a look on it.

BTW : if india was really so strong and expandable they would have a world empire like the persians , alexander , romans and mongols so I mean it when I say "not historycally accurate"

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

India is larger than Persia ever was. Besides, their purpose in the mod is probably to keep the Sassies from destroying the ERE in the first 20 turns.

[julianus heraclius]

India is larger than Persia ever was. Besides, their purpose in the mod is probably to keep the Sassies from destroying the ERE in the first 20 turns.

Exactly.

[the persian Immortal]

Exactly.

exactly what ? I think a moderator have deleted my last post in respond to cacoroach.
if india is ment to hold the sassanids back than why does it keep conquering your land???

[Joar]

I think a moderator have deleted my last post in respond to cacoroach.

As far as I can tell there's been no deleted posts in this thread.

However, if the strength of the Guptas bother you, there are ways to weaken them. The quickest and most effective way, from a starting point of view, is to edit the descr_strat file and give them a weaker starting ground by reducing their units. This gives you the chance to move in on them early on without altering any aspects of the actual gameplay.

But do remember to make a back-up of every file you edit, cause otherwise there's a risk that your game won't be compatible with future patches.

[the persian Immortal]

As far as I can tell there's been no deleted posts in this thread.

However, if the strength of the Guptas bother you, there are ways to weaken them. The quickest and most effective way, from a starting point of view, is to edit the descr_strat file and give them a weaker starting ground by reducing their units. This gives you the chance to move in on them early on without altering any aspects of the actual gameplay.

But do remember to make a back-up of every file you edit, cause otherwise there's a risk that your game won't be compatible with future patches.

thanks

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

if india is ment to hold the sassanids back than why does it keep conquering your land???

It is supposed to DISTRACT THEM. If they were not invading your land, you wouldn't bother to reinforce the east. And if you don't reinforce the east, the ERE can't defend itself.

[the persian Immortal]

It is supposed to DISTRACT THEM. If they were not invading your land, you wouldn't bother to reinforce the east. And if you don't reinforce the east, the ERE can't defend itself.

the white huns are enough the indians are just so overpowered with their dinasaur armoured elephants. (how ever it's still not as strong as ROPs indian elephants) but it's still a bother I agree that the sassanids are just too strong if they hadn't fronts in east and west but this is just too much.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

No. They aren't overpowered, and the Hephtalites get crushed even by the AI Sasanians.

[Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze]

and the Hephtalites get crushed even by the AI Sasanians.

Unless you fight them on the field. My Sassanian savegame broke because I had to fix them
_{effing cavalry. Who gave 'em that hyperawesomehigh attack?}

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

The easiest way of beating them is 5-6 spearmen in shieldwall, even paighan will do, 6-12 foot archers and savaran - the Hephtalites will be shot to death without a chance of retaliation.

[the persian Immortal]

The easiest way of beating them is 5-6 spearmen in shieldwall, even paighan will do, 6-12 foot archers and savaran - the Hephtalites will be shot to death without a chance of retaliation.

cool I didn't know that , can you give me some more advise ? i really need some.

BTW : paighan you surely mean payegan right

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

BTW : paighan you surely mean payegan right

The unit is named Paighan; and don't forget it's meant to be MIDDLE PERSIAN, not modern Persian.

As for advice, you shouldn't be facing any problems on the battlefield, seeing as the Sasanian roster is the best in game, IMO. It has got everything, and of excellent quality at that.

[the persian Immortal]

[QUOTE]

The unit is named Paighan; and don't forget it's meant to be MIDDLE PERSIAN, not modern Persian

1.I'm totally aware of middle persian it's not that different from modern persian : middle persian are pure persian , modern persian are mixed with a bit arabic and also some words have changed it's meaning.

Paighan sassanie means : payegan-e sassani which means "sassanid Infantry" so don't question my middle persian again .
it's abiusly the developers mistake

As for advice, you shouldn't be facing any problems on the battlefield, seeing as the Sasanian roster is the best in game, IMO. It has got everything, and of excellent quality at that.

no I'm not questioning sassanids unit roster it's just hard to deal with the eastern super power india and the white huns while all your armys are focused on the west were the romans and armanians are

[Bull3pr00f de Bodemloze]

paighan you surely mean payegan right

paighan in game. Don't ask me why; I know nothing of the various languages spoken/ that have been spoken in that area.

[Gäiten]

Best elephant killers for the Sassanians are Kurdish Javelinmen.
If you do not have them among your ranks (especially at the beginning of the game) use fire arrows shot by your foot archers.
That lets them go run amok.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Javelinmen are waste of space, IMO, because no matter the bonii, they're still too weak.

[Flavius Vegetius Renatus]

Definitely use kurdish javelinmen in open battle against elephants but if u still encounter problems i suggest u use the siege warfare, its much easier plus the defenders get extra bonus from walls and towers. Make sure that your eastern cities get quickly upgraded with stone wall. then pack the garrison with paighan spearmen and archers. The guptas tactic is usually using elephans as battering rams but they have tendency to quickly rout and stampede their own troops. Even if guptas r able to breach your walls they dont have a good enoungh infantry to cause u any problems as far as i can remember.

[the persian Immortal]

Definitely use kurdish javelinmen in open battle against elephants but if u still encounter problems i suggest u use the siege warfare, its much easier plus the defenders get extra bonus from walls and towers. Make sure that your eastern cities get quickly upgraded with stone wall. then pack the garrison with paighan spearmen and archers. The guptas tactic is usually using elephans as battering rams but they have tendency to quickly rout and stampede their own troops. Even if guptas r able to breach your walls they dont have a good enoungh infantry to cause u any problems as far as i can remember.

that was the answer I was looking for +rep .
thanks mate

[the persian Immortal]

Definitely use kurdish javelinmen in open battle against elephants but if u still encounter problems i suggest u use the siege warfare, its much easier plus the defenders get extra bonus from walls and towers. Make sure that your eastern cities get quickly upgraded with stone wall. then pack the garrison with paighan spearmen and archers. The guptas tactic is usually using elephans as battering rams but they have tendency to quickly rout and stampede their own troops. Even if guptas r able to breach your walls they dont have a good enoungh infantry to cause u any problems as far as i can remember.

I did what this guy said but they still kicked my ass this time the white huns are dominating me their horse archer armys and the indians in the south how can i make them distract the indians and fight with each other instead of me ?

damn I think I should try E/N instead of N/H this mod is just more than a challange