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    This is really a historical news. The first Islamic political party to choose a christian as its VP !!

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    Is that one of the consequences of the Arab spring ?

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    Honestly I did not see that coming. Hopefully this is a sign that religious tensions might die down in Egypt again under a, hopefully, new democratic Government.

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    I hope this is for good and that the Christian VP would make the most out of this to defuse tensions.

    But cynically it could be just a calculated political move and as meaningless as a racist/anti-semite excusing himself by saying that he has black/jew friends

    Time will tell.
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    whatever, the copts still have to go to hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlerich View Post
    whatever, the copts still have to go to hell
    just like christians think that non christians will go to hell

    who cares

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    That sounds too good to be true.
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    Did my eyes just deceived me?
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    Even if the they didnt appoint a Christian, they would still win since they are so popular among the 90% Muslim majority. So I fail to see how this is politically motivated in an attempt to win votes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Even if the they didnt appoint a Christian, they would still win since they are so popular among the 90% Muslim majority. So I fail to see how this is politically motivated in an attempt to win votes.
    Maybe they dont feel that is true, which would make this (even if just a vote getting ploy) a fairly good sign.



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    I don't think that that is a political move. They will certainly loose the votes of more religious muslims for this. Besides, I think that they are smarter than thinking that the copts of egypt will vote for them

    have u ever met a copt

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelionheart View Post
    have u ever met a copt
    I am a Muslim copt


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    Quote Originally Posted by jermagon View Post
    I am a Muslim copt
    Whats a muslim copt?I was impressed with this part also"has close to 1,000 female members".I saw a documentary about the Muslim Brotherhood and they own many schools and hospitals and do alot of good charity work in Egypt.They dont seem to be a bunch of nutters.Now they have a guy from another religion in a high position so fair play to them and good luck to Egypt with there new dawn.ALAH AKBAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by jermagon View Post
    I am a Muslim copt

    That's the spirit,man.No matter the religion,every Egyptian is a Copt.Giving you kudos.

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    They didn't choose the VP for the voters, they chose it for the West to say 'Look look, Muslim Brotherhood is very interfaith tolerance friendly'. It's an apologist's wet dream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jermagon View Post
    I am a Muslim copt
    lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere View Post
    They didn't choose the VP for the voters, they chose it for the West to say 'Look look, Muslim Brotherhood is very interfaith tolerance friendly'. It's an apologist's wet dream.
    So what ? Atleast they did.. this may lead to true secular parties in the Arab world in the future, unlike the 'minority secular' parties we have now. I sencerly hope that some jews would join that party soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere View Post
    They didn't choose the VP for the voters, they chose it for the West to say 'Look look, Muslim Brotherhood is very interfaith tolerance friendly'. It's an apologist's wet dream.
    Even if I agreed with your assertion, why should I care? It's not like this kind of crap doesn't happen in western politics all the time. We all know that what your really concerned about is people of a certain faith doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gertrudius! View Post
    Even if I agreed with your assertion, why should I care? It's not like this kind of crap doesn't happen in western politics all the time. We all know that what your really concerned about is people of a certain faith doing it.
    Problem is the fake moderation is intended to con the west in giving them money because they are ''moderate'' ... never mind the money could end in such charitable giving like terrorism.

    If you do it in Botswana or the US it is unconsetial to others countries.



    Quote Originally Posted by thelionheart View Post
    So what ? Atleast they did.. this may lead to true secular parties in the Arab world in the future, unlike the 'minority secular' parties we have now. I sencerly hope that some jews would join that party soon
    A mini-skirt wearing Hot Black Jewish Chairwoman is my pick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Cashmere View Post
    They didn't choose the VP for the voters, they chose it for the West to say 'Look look, Muslim Brotherhood is very interfaith tolerance friendly'. It's an apologist's wet dream.
    Simon, MB is pretty clear about it's policies towards the west and they couldnt care less for what the west has to say as long as they win the 30-40% of the seats they are aiming for.

    the MB has already proclaimed that they will be opening their doors for Copts to join their party, which they had no choice but to do so. yet, to announce their willingness to appoint a Coptic VP is a huge step and weird considering that they will not be running for presidency!
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    wow this is huge. Hopefully this quiets down the fears by radical americans afraid of the Muslim brotherhood installing a theology.

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    I think for many people no matter what happens it will be irrelevant: they "know" everything they need to know about the Muslim Brotherhood.

    We have to emphasise here that we are talking about the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, which is present in practically every Muslim country. This influences our views because of the Coptic population of Egypt and recent examples of both strife and cooperation between Muslims and Christians and Muslims.

    This is nothing but a good move. Egypt comes to a cross road and to see the Muslim Brotherhood, an organisation certain to influence if not actually direct politics in any democratic Egypt that we hope will emerge, making such an explicit gesture towards tolerance and cooperation is excellent, and I hope bodes well for action in the future.

    I think it's worth underlining here that both the Muslim Brotherhood and Copts suffered discrimination at the hands of the former dictatorship. The Brotherhood was banned and its members tortured, and the Christians frequently discriminated against. There may be more potential for common ground here than our Jihad Watchers may be willing to accept.

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