France and Britain could adopt a UN resolution against Syria

[Darsh]

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France and the United Kingdom are close to achieving the adoption of a resolution on Syria to the Security Council of the United Nations, said yesterday Alain Juppe, the French Minister of Foreign Affairs. "We are still threatened by a Russian veto and [...] China. It seems that a majority of nine votes is taking shape right now, "said Alain Juppe. The idea is to adopt a formal condemnation of the Syrian regime. "We will take further steps in the coming days,"said Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. On site, the repression continues. Government tanks and troops entered yesterday morning in the town of Naoua, besieged for three semaines.A. N.

http://www.20minutes.fr/article/7259...esolution-onu-

The major problem would be the Russian and Chinese veto but if this resolution would be adopted, I hope the "no ground zone" option will remplace the "no fly zone".

[PointOfViewGun]

Foreseeing an other intervention?

[hellheaven1987]

Without even finish Libya first?

By the way why I am not surprised Darsh is the one open this thread?

[Menelik_I]

Without even finish Libya first?

The French got their first bonner in a while ... gotta take advantage of it

By the way why I am not surprised Darsh is the one open this thread?

No shameless promotion of French newfound Imperial Balls

Correct OP would be : French and Britain trying to drag USA in another War.

The RAF and French couldn't do the jot in Libya without USA overwhelming tomawak force and we are to believe that Tonton Frog France and John Rossbeef UK can pul another war in Syria

[Adar]

It took me a while to realize that ONU was French for UN...

Personally I believe that picking a fight with Syria is a bad idea. It might be morally righteous but it would also show that the west is dangerously overextended. USA is unlikely to deliver another Tomahawk stike, several nations are already pulling out of Libya and the Arab leaders are far better friends with Bashar al-Assad than with Khadaffi.

So a resolution would only serve to sever all ties between Syria and the EU without actually hurting Syria.

The only way we can possible hurt them would be to start supporting Israel in the Golan heights as a kind of retaliation against al-Assads regime.

[Ahlerich]

Without even finish Libya first?

"Impossible n'est pas français"

they can also go home after the elections anyways, its not like the war might come after them. thats the beauty of hobby wars.

[Babur]

"Impossible n'est pas français"

Isn't that what Dominique Strauss-Kahn said too?

[Menelik_I]

Isn't that what Dominique Strauss-Kahn said too?

The thing that is impossible is to find the bottom of French arrogance.

[CiviC]

Syrian regime is the most hard core I guess, more likely Ceausescu was in Eastern Europe. It will be very hard to dislodge them without support from Syrian Army. Libya has no army practically, but Syria is preparing for half a century for war with Israel.

[Necromancer]

Here we go again...

[Sir Pignans]

Doesn't Syria actually present a limited threat to us if we did attack though? I don't think Cameron will want to risk getting Britian embroiled in yet another war.

[The Noble Lord]

Doesn't Syria actually present a limited threat to us if we did attack though? I don't think Cameron will want to risk getting Britian embroiled in yet another war.

Syria DOES NOT pose a threat to either France or Britain in any way, shape or form! The implementation of the sanctions is just one of the many pathetic attempts by that populist Sarkozy who is doing a terrible job at home so he wants to divert the attention to somewhere else to show how good he is, and attempt by the old hypocrites and users of double standards, the British who still like to project the notion that they are somebody and in reality they are the last one in the world to say anything to anybody, they don't have one inch and one gram of moral authority to speak of, none!! If anything when it comes to issue of Syria it is the British that shoiuld keep quiet and silent, they should not be even noticeable on the world stage, the old hypocrites whose hands are bloody up to the shoulders!!

[hellheaven1987]

If Angol-French alliance want to invade Syria they probably would follow their Imperial plan during Suez Crisis by calling Israel to be the meatbag.

[Babur]

If Angol-French alliance want to invade Syria

just like in 1920?

[mattgoby]

We British and our French allies should intervene in all these countries after all, we're the ones that messed them up

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In some way im sure its thatchers fault

[Sir Pignans]

Syria DOES NOT pose a threat to either France or Britain in any way, shape or form!

A quick check of there armoury shows that they could possibly pose a threat in the event of a no-fly zone being implemented, which was what my point was.

The implementation of the sanctions is just one of the many pathetic attempts by that populist Sarkozy who is doing a terrible job at home so he wants to divert the attention to somewhere else to show how good he is,

A politician trying to divert attention? THE HORROR AND UNPREDICABLE NATURE OF IT!!!!!!!

and attempt by the old hypocrites and users of double standards, the British who still like to project the notion that they are somebody and in reality they are the last one in the world to say anything to anybody, they don't have one inch and one gram of moral authority to speak of, none!! If anything when it comes to issue of Syria it is the British that shoiuld keep quiet and silent, they should not be even noticeable on the world stage, the old hypocrites whose hands are bloody up to the shoulders!!

Wow. Just... just... wow.

[Erebus Pasha]

Syria DOES NOT pose a threat to either France or Britain in any way, shape or form! The implementation of the sanctions is just one of the many pathetic attempts by that populist Sarkozy who is doing a terrible job at home so he wants to divert the attention to somewhere else to show how good he is, and attempt by the old hypocrites and users of double standards, the British who still like to project the notion that they are somebody and in reality they are the last one in the world to say anything to anybody, they don't have one inch and one gram of moral authority to speak of, none!! If anything when it comes to issue of Syria it is the British that shoiuld keep quiet and silent, they should not be even noticeable on the world stage, the old hypocrites whose hands are bloody up to the shoulders!!

And how have you come to this quite remarkable conclusion about the British?

[The Noble Lord]

And how have you come to this quite remarkable conclusion about the British?

Oh, it wasn't hard at all, at all! On the contrary it was very easy probably because it is the British that are being discussed. Just by analyzing and looking at the British history and conduct in the last 3 centuries you can come to the above conclusion. And I restrained myself to what I had to say to only that small paragraph. To correctly and succinctly present the entire thing would be a PHD size work, that's how long it would take because there is so much.
It's nothing personal against the British, it's just that their foreign policy and conduct around the world made them completely loose any sense of moral authority and morality. They lost it long time ago, that is why it is nonsensical and ludicrous that you have British trying to teach somebody about justice and morality and trying to portray themselves as being the "good ones". C'mon, the British of all the people, it's ridiculous. Even Zululand has more moral authority than the British!!
If Luxembourg, Cameroon, Laos and Iceland try to adopt a resolution and try to teach somebody about justice and behavior, than I would say they have a point. They have a authority on the matter from this or that angle, it's valid what they say, let them speak and have the resolution.
But the British, it's a joke!! The biggest hypocrites and users of double standards the mankind has ever seen, the inventors of concentration camps and piracy, the inventors of biological weapons and blackmail, the proponents of slavery and supporters of genocidal and tyrannical regimes and empires. The British whose middle name is cheat and deceit, the invaders and occupiers, those who left trail of blood behind them wherever they went.
Heh, to have British teaching somebody about justice and proper behavior, it's laughable. Even emperors Caligula and Nero have more moral authority than ANY British prime minister or politician up to date!! C'mon, if anything you British should keep quiet and hide yourself and be unnoticeable on the world stage after you have done and what your bloody record is!! As I said, it's a work of PHD size and you can't put everything in one small post.

it will be attacked by the USA & puppets?

Well of course, they can attack, bomb, burn and invade everybody and anybody because they do it in the name of "democracy and human rights", and in the name of "International community". That's why they have a right to do it, didn't you know??

[Erebus Pasha]

Oh, it wasn't hard at all, at all! On the contrary it was very easy probably because it is the British that are being discussed. Just by analyzing and looking at the British history and conduct in the last 3 centuries you can come to the above conclusion. And I restrained myself to what I had to say to only that small paragraph. To correctly and succinctly present the entire thing would be a PHD size work, that's how long it would take because there is so much.
It's nothing personal against the British, it's just that their foreign policy and conduct around the world made them completely loose any sense of moral authority and morality. They lost it long time ago, that is why it is nonsensical and ludicrous that you have British trying to teach somebody about justice and morality and trying to portray themselves as being the "good ones". C'mon, the British of all the people, it's ridiculous. Even Zululand has more moral authority than the British!!
If Luxembourg, Cameroon, Laos and Iceland try to adopt a resolution and try to teach somebody about justice and behavior, than I would say they have a point. They have a authority on the matter from this or that angle, it's valid what they say, let them speak and have the resolution.
But the British, it's a joke!! The biggest hypocrites and users of double standards the mankind has ever seen, the inventors of concentration camps and piracy, the inventors of biological weapons and blackmail, the proponents of slavery and supporters of genocidal and tyrannical regimes and empires. The British whose middle name is cheat and deceit, the invaders and occupiers, those who left trail of blood behind them wherever they went.
Heh, to have British teaching somebody about justice and proper behavior, it's laughable. Even emperors Caligula and Nero have more moral authority than ANY British prime minister or politician up to date!! C'mon, if anything you British should keep quiet and hide yourself and be unnoticeable on the world stage after you have done and what your bloody record is!! As I said, it's a work of PHD size and you can't put everything in one small post.

Well the British Empire no longer exists and we are talking about current events, and not what occurred during Britain's colonial past. At the moment we have the leadership in Syria killing it's own people. That this is not happening in my own country then I think it's fair to say we can take the moral high ground. We should be prepared to take action like we've done in Libya and like we did in the former Yugoslavia.

Still parts of your posts are simply erroneous due to the fact you are succumbing to popular myths. We neither invented piracy or concentration camps nor did we invent biological warfare. Whilst we were involved in the slave trade we were on the first nations to outlaw it. The rest of your post is full of usual hate-filled vitriol and prejudice that has little basis in fact either. Comparing the entire lineage of British Prime Ministers with two of the worst Roman Emperors is frankly ridiculous.

[Rolling Thunder]

But the British, it's a joke!! The biggest hypocrites and users of double standards the mankind has ever seen, the inventors of concentration camps and piracy, the inventors of biological weapons and blackmail, the proponents of slavery and supporters of genocidal and tyrannical regimes and empires.

So, basically, the British did what everyone else did, you're just butthurt because we were better than everyone else? Or is it because the British were better than everyone else, building a massive and powerful empire and curbstomping everyone else (with the exception of the Americans) from 1750-1945 who got in their way, and it was only after two world wars that their power was diminished? And that from 1945 onwards their conduct has been surprisingly moral, decolonising and abandoning their Empire and becoming both surprisingly liberal and showing surprising respect for human rights?

Is that what has made you so angry?