two questions.2.about balrog 1. about dale

[the persian Immortal]

1.I liked to play a different men faction other than rohan and gondor, as I couldn't find much in the good guys. I decided to choose dale.and I like to mention a few issues.
they army sucks! : as in the script they should have great archers but they archer aren't even half good as the gondor if we don't mention the elves great skill in archery.
their infantry sucks as it takes a long time to get your hand on their swordmen wich in my opinion isn't worth of so much waiting.
their cav isn't that bad but they are lak in types so you don't have much choise.

their diplomasy sucks! : 1.even though they have a deep aleince with the dwarfs they always get insulted by them and needless to say it doesn't take much time for them to tare your armys apart with their great supirior infantry they will defeat you even if you out nomber them with a great numbers so I gues 500-600 dwarfs is all what's needed to totaly crush you

to the east you got the eastern dudes that also are supirior archer,infantry and cavelary so you just have to rally on good tactics.

the elves well if they attack you than you are doomed with tree fronts.
but they hadden't assulted me just yet.

so I really don't think they have any strong points other than they look cool to me. so if there is any suggestion about a dale campaign I could really use so advise.

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the balrog the shadow of udon , well just as the movie shouldn't this guy




be a hero for the orc rebels?????

[the persian Immortal]

any 1 !!!!!??????

[TheDarkKnight]

Erm...Don't play Dale? lol

It seems like in every LOTR inspired game Dale is just a so-so faction. I do agree that it sucks that the dwarves attack you though.

[the persian Immortal]

Erm...Don't play Dale? lol

It seems like in every LOTR inspired game Dale is just a so-so faction. I do agree that it sucks that the dwarves attack you though.

that's the part that I don't understand the dwerves suppose to be your close allies who should help you getting their home land back from the goblins and orcs.

IF you think I shouldn't play as dale is there any other good men faction other than gondor and rohan that I can play???

[phobos451]

there is nothing the modders do about it. it's RTW engine that always attacks around its borders. but you can use "blind alliances", for they will still attack you, but will be your ally again at the end of the turn. so they can't take any of your cities.

it's a cool script

[Spike]

just try Rahwana's EDU rebalancement submod

it's true, the original EDU isn't intended to be balanced for campaigns, some factions are definitely "disadvantaged", but that means Dale is for veterans.

[Darth_Revan]

you can win as dale, they just have to have a ton of upgrades and XP..

[the persian Immortal]

you can win as dale, they just have to have a ton of upgrades and XP..

???? alittle more explanation

[TheDarkKnight]

???? alittle more explanation

Gold chevrons are your friend...


Seriously though, it's possible. I'm in the middle of a Gondor campaign and I have reclaimed all of Dale and I am currently pumping out militia and archers to supplement my ever dwindling Gondorian forces. I even have 2 full armies of purely Dalian militia and archers, and they are doing rather well against the Easterlings I have been sending them against.

Of course Rhun, Orc Rabbles, and Mordor are all severely weakened at this point, so that could be contributing as well.

[Darth_Revan]

???? alittle more explanation

play defensively and build buildings that increase troop XP and armor quality if you do go offensive make sure there is always ally army of dwarves nearby or another stack of your own

[the persian Immortal]

play defensively and build buildings that increase troop XP and armor quality if you do go offensive make sure there is always ally army of dwarves nearby or another stack of your own

well that's the problem the dwarfs keep attacking me and my weak army are no match for their heavy axemen

[Skullheadhq]

well that's the problem the dwarfs keep attacking me and my weak army are no match for their heavy axemen

well, just use the hotseat campaign script

[Darth_Revan]

well that's the problem the dwarfs keep attacking me and my weak army are no match for their heavy axemen

why would the dwarves be attacking you.. aren't there binding alliances??

[Seshomaru]

you can play with 2 or 3 factions at the same time