so many factions to chose, so you do it for me

**FOR GONDOR** · May 15, 2011, 01:47 PM

ok... there are 28 factions to chose and i dont know who to pick, i originally wanted to play Kieve but that glitched weirdly with the money for some reason, so i want to play a new campaign, i'm on early, and i don't know who to pick!!!! so i was wondering who i should play as, i am favoring the british due to i'm english and the Bysantines because i love the romans, but i dont know who to play as. so i leave it up to you memebers of the forum to decide for me. cheers.

**Asterix** · May 15, 2011, 01:53 PM

the Romans can be fun but are super easy. if you want a massive challenge that will be tons of fun, go for Crusader states. i personally love Leon-Castile for their starting postition and all the things they can do from there, plus a cool roster. England is easy.

**Vespasian92** · May 15, 2011, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Asterix

If you want a massive challenge that will be tons of fun, go for Crusader states.

**FOR GONDOR** · May 15, 2011, 01:57 PM

please vote in the poll, i'm going to count the votes by the end of the day, i accidently said three ays until poll closes, but ill keep it open to see who the second and third runner ups are. and use them as my second and third campaigns after the winner. cheers

**Anesthetize** · May 15, 2011, 01:57 PM

I enjoy catholic factions with strong missile capabilities; i.e. Italian factions and France/england. HRE and the iberians are also quite powerful later on. France has probably my favourite starting position though, and can field mostly any kind of ranged unit (scots guard with longbows, good crossbowmen (both mounted and foot) and some of the best gunpowder units).

**Ichon** · May 15, 2011, 02:06 PM

Sicily... Normans similar to those who conquered England, but in the Mediterranean fighting saracens and going on Crusades... why not?

**FOR GONDOR** · May 15, 2011, 02:25 PM

personally i like mixed even armies of 4 bowmen, 5 defensive infintry 5 offensive, a general, 4 cavalry and 1 juvenilia but I'm willing to play any faction. and conquer the world

**FOR GONDOR** · May 15, 2011, 03:20 PM

currently the vote is tied at lithuania at 2 votes, and the crusader states at 2 votes, please vote people

**Hypomanic Crusader** · May 15, 2011, 03:31 PM

Well I would actually say uninstall and reinstall with late campaign - I thought I was an early campaign man myself but dammn theres a lot more happening in later.

Anyhoo, early, I had fun with Sicily just as you can fight moors without Pope being pissed. Can get to crusade targets in the middle east easily, save the Crusader States from being overwhelmed since theirs no Mongols threatening the Turks / Khwz's, and is a good starting place. Dont expect to fill your ranks with norman knights though its a serious economic drain compared to Vanilla Total War.

Otherwise, Venice is a challenge. Fighting a strong Byzantine faction is hard work and their hv cavalry will not go down easily . Seriously, their cataphract units (or whatever their called) can be hit full charge by your general from behind and you will suffer more casualties as a result. Plus if you dont ally with hungry you'll be swamped by a Byz/Hungry tag team.

In my opinion, England is boring. I'd love to say otherwise being English and all but its not particularly fun.

I voted for Crusader Stated though. It is certainly a challenge as stated, no starting Mongols to threaten the Muslims near Iraq. You'll be quickly swamped with enemy Jihad armies and any alliances you previously had with the Muslims will shatter in no time.

**FOR GONDOR** · May 15, 2011, 04:12 PM

update!!!! i am considering playing a migration campaing, were i take all my generals and armies invade but make all my original settlements rebel, then going back later to win, i once did this with england in france. should i do this?

**John Haukewood** · May 15, 2011, 03:26 PM

Gotta say Novgorod. They're my favorite, followed by Lithuania and Kiev. Of course, the Cumans could be fun.

**FOR GONDOR** · May 15, 2011, 04:42 PM

ok, i am closing the votes for the first campaing, the winner is the crusader states

now keep voting for who you want me to play if i die, or if i gain a victory

**Hypomanic Crusader** · May 15, 2011, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by FOR GONDOR

ok, i am closing the votes for the first campaing, the winner is the crusader states

now keep voting for who you want me to play if i die, or if i gain a victory

For the love of god dont loose Jerusalem. Unique city recruitment and all

I play a house rule for Crusader States. Not allowed to order a crusade into Holy Lands unless Jerusalem has fallen / no crusade for first 20 turns.

Play Venice/Genoa or Sicily next IMO.

**Head of the Heavy Chargers** · May 15, 2011, 05:27 PM

Catholics... boring... no
Romans... done... no
Muslims... hmmm... maybe

How about Cumans? Lithuanians? Or Rus-factions? I don't see many of those empires in the Show your empires -thread. Forget about Catholics or do a crazy migration with them atleast to the Urals, to Caucasus or to Persian gulf?