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    Did he?


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    " Did he? "

    jankren,

    Well you answer. Did He or did He not? It is written that God is in everything, sustains everything and most of all created everything that exists and that there was nothing that was created but it was created by Him. Does that answer your loaded question? But to take it a little further, man is destined to die because of the curse of sin. How we die is inconsequential for die we must.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    " Did he? "

    jankren,

    Well you answer. Did He or did He not? It is written that God is in everything, sustains everything and most of all created everything that exists and that there was nothing that was created but it was created by Him. Does that answer your loaded question? But to take it a little further, man is destined to die because of the curse of sin. How we die is inconsequential for die we must.
    So god designed a disease specifically to kill humans and other animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    But to take it a little further, man is destined to die because of the curse of sin. How we die is inconsequential for die we must.
    Man is an organic lifeform, and like all other lifeforms we die not because of some imaginary sin.

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    If you believe in God then yes of course he did, and all of the other misery in the world.

    But if you believe in God that's not a bad thing at all, it doesn't make him evil, because after all you believe this life is unimportant. Early Christians used to party and celebrate at funerals in the knowledge that the deceased had gone to heaven. If something bad happened to someone like leperosy or paralysis, they would just accept in the knowledge it was only temporary until they reached paradise.

    I am not a believer but trying to argue that God is malevelant because there are bad things in the world doesn't work. According to religion these aren't bad things.

    Of course that sort of passive, submissive thinking should certainly be discouraged, but it is just what Christianity and Islam teach, even if very few of their modern followers are strong enough to act like that. Take a look at the book of Job.
    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    But to take it a little further, man is destined to die because of the curse of sin.
    I am absolutely repulsed by that interpretation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    I am absolutely repulsed by that interpretation.
    For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    As basics pointed out it is the ultimate penilty that we must pay for our seinfulness. Why would you be repulsed? That is why Jesus died on the cross to pave the way to eternal life with no suffering or death.

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    but why are sins sins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    but why are sins sins?
    Because man delights in the torment of his fellow man.
    The Earth is inhabited by billions of idiots.
    The search for intelligent life continues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    but why are sins sins?
    Because they are diseases of the soul and do spiritual harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Bolingbroke View Post
    Because they are diseases of the soul and do spiritual harm.
    Who says they do spiritual harm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Bolingbroke View Post
    Because they are diseases of the soul and do spiritual harm.
    expressing affection is a disease of the soul and harms people? Really? What sort of ridiculously sadist religion is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat View Post
    Who says they do spiritual harm?
    People who lived exemplary and holy lives.

    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    expressing affection is a disease of the soul and harms people? Really?
    Depends on how you're expressing affection. Some perverts express affection for children by molesting them, does that make it okay since they're expressing affection and not necessarily physically harming them?
    Last edited by Hilarion; May 14, 2011 at 05:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Bolingbroke View Post
    People who lived exemplary and holy lives.
    Why is a holy life exemplary? Who decides what is a holy life and one that is not? Who decides which people are models of that life and which people are not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    but why are sins sins?
    Sins are sins for the same reason crimes are crimes. A crime is an act that goes against the law, a sin is an act that goes against God's laws.

    On topic, if God did design cancer and tumors then God exists, and if God exists then there is no reason to fear cancer or tumors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CamilleBonparte View Post
    Sins are sins for the same reason crimes are crimes. A crime is an act that goes against the law, a sin is an act that goes against God's laws.
    There are reasons why things are against the law. Apparently you think God is beyond reason?

    "Because God wills it" is such a cowardly and unfulfilling answer and questions of this magnitute. Give me reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Did he?
    No.
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    So God causes cancer? Ah hah! Gotcha! Now we just need to put an age limit on the use of God and sell it in cheap convenience stores.

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    There are rational reasons for that. Why is it irrational for two people to enjoy sex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    There are rational reasons for that. Why is it irrational for two people to enjoy sex?
    Nothing is wrong with it in the confines of marriage. That is how God intended it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler_the_Great View Post
    Nothing is wrong with it in the confines of marriage. That is how God intended it to be.
    And you know gods intent how?

    And please don't use the bible as your source or excerpts.

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