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    Farnan's Avatar Saviors of the Japanese
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    Default Should being a Pastor require a College Degree?

    This is something TBN and myself agree on. As of now being a pastor (not sure about priest though) requires a Theology Degree. That degree, in our opinion is a-scriputural, and to me means that the pastor gets his authority more from man then from God. I believe that anyone who has the calling should be able to be a pastor.

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    This is something TBN and myself agree on.
    As it says

    By the way, it would be intresting to make this a public poll, to see peoples opinions on it... if that's ok with you, I can change it?

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    sure, if you want...
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    i voted yes. in germany they have to go to university for many years and it is hard too.
    why i voted yes:
    a pastor has the power to influence many ppl a lot the way how and what he advises ppl and writes his preaches.well his speeches in a service, sorry i dont know what that is called. therefore it is important that the man or woman has a lot of knowledge, high education and moral values to not abuse this power. i do not think that anybody should be able to get that power. abuse is guaranteed. i understand that all that education does not guarantee the above (values,responsibility,..) but it raises chances in my eyes.

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    Yes, you have a point a pastor can be an important position, but it is not a position that can easily be abused, at least not as easily as that of a politician (a position that does not require any schooling). Also, who do you believe would be a better pastor, a 22 year old scion who got his degree at Harvard or a 40 year old computer technician who had the calling to become a pastor but not the money or time to get the degree? How about the auto mechanic who read the Bible his entire life and was a devout Christain who felt the calling to become a pastor, but not the money to go to college?
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    well you sure have a point there. see in germany education does not cost anything so basically everybody has the option to go to university, he just has to invest time. so i guess my idea works in countries where education is free well and in countries where it is expensive to study it imposes more limits to possible "talents" and therefore is not an easy solution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlerich
    well you sure have a point there. see in germany education does not cost anything so basically everybody has the option to go to university, he just has to invest time. so i guess my idea works in countries where education is free well and in countries where it is expensive to study it imposes more limits to possible "talents" and therefore is not an easy solution
    Also, the fact that requiring a Theology means that you get your authority from man istead of God, but that is more of a personal religous view...
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    College for what? Does MAthematics figure in in some way I don't know about? Erm, read from a book to people who most likely aren't college educated either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honeohvovohaestse
    College for what? Does MAthematics figure in in some way I don't know about? Erm, read from a book to people who most likely aren't college educated either.
    Its a theology degree...
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    well a grade 3 student can read from the bible. however i do not think that that is a pastors job.

    see if you give me 100 pages of sourcecode for a comlicated software i can type it in again and compile it. so than i created the software myself.but i dont have any programming skills :-/

    if you want program ppl well you have to be able to create sourcecode not just copy/paste it

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    I think they should just to show that they have some resembalance of inteligence. I have heard countless stupid remarks about history, politics, goverment from pastors. And to interpet the bible for a group of people that are relying on you for guidance I think you should have some sort of degree.
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    I see where you are coming from w/ people who have a calling to become a pastor. However, people who have a calling should go to a theological school before they teach people. Sure, they may not have much money, and they may not have much time, but if a degree was required, and someone was dissuaded from following God's calling because it was too hard or too expensive (there are cheaper ones as well, not everyone goes to Harvard or Notre Dame), I don't think I want to be ministered to by that person.

    I also want to know that the person that is teaching me knows how to correctly interpret the Bible. I don't want someone up there who is "inspired" but knows less than I do about the scriptures. Not saying anything against people who are inspired, but they must still show how sincere that inspiration is by going to college.
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    They should have degrees. They are seen as teachers and leaders. People come to them with questions. They should be very well versed in their respective theologies in order to answer people.

    As to anyone who thinks that being a pastor is not abusable, I say to you Jim Jones.

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    Theology degree...
    it seems to be required here...

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    No! Not at all.. I think the spirit is the most important part of a pastors identity. I don't think you become a better pastor or priest if you got college degree either.. To think that is to missunderstand the importance of religion and belief completely..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the Empire
    No! Not at all.. I think the spirit is the most important part of a pastors identity. I don't think you become a better pastor or priest if you got college degree either.. To think that is to missunderstand the importance of religion and belief completely..
    Lets assume the God exists and that the Bible is his word. If some one wants to preach the word of God, then it's reasonable to expect them to know the Bible better then the average person, no? If all they have to do is read it out loud, then I could be a pastor.

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