sieging orcs are stupid

[Millander]

Dear Forum,
This has annoyed me and saved me multiple times. It seems whens a large army of orcs attack a settlement of mine most often a castle they will put 1 or to units into the walls via ladders or siege towers but as soon as their battering ram breaks down the gate the entire army excluding the orcs on the wall charge through the gate at the same time. I normally put the bulk of my forces at the gate and after a brief fight I cause a mass route. I find this silly because i could be defending a settlement with 5 units and route a 20 unit orc army within 15 minutes. Does this happen to any of you and do you know if this issue can or will be fixed in the next update for the mod? Thank you for reading and have a nice day.

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

Hmmm...How do you say this in english...

Perhaps the general AI behavior pattern is hardcoded. In all my MTW II AI seiges, once the ram brakes through, most of the units charge the gatehouse and generally ignore the ladders and sig towers. Those few units that do still storm the walls are generally units that have "regrouped", and they generally rout easily once on the walls. espcially if you are using range fire. {crossbows, fire arrows}

[Muffer Nl]

This also depends on the command level of the enemy general.

All I can say is: AI; very artificial, very little intelligence.

[Millander]

Both of you post are probably rite. Its probably not a real problem in vanilla when there is far less troops but then you have massive orc armies thats different.

[Kabeloko]

that always happen, didnt changed anything in here, independent how large the enemy army is...
if u are already playing on vh/vh there isnt much u can do...

[NickTheGreek3]

Well, orcs are generally stupid, but that's not the problem. The AI always behaves like that, but to be honest, I would do the same thing - actually I would charge into the settlement through a breach on the wall, not from the gate (too narrow + boiling oil). Capturing the walls with ladders while 2 units defend each wall isn't such an easy task (while tearing the walls down is much easier - and more fun ). Personally I use ladders/siege towers only if the enemy has few or no troops onto the walls or just archers.

[thespaniard]

ha the stupid AI has safed me many times. I play on large troops numbers and in some settlements i dont have enough troops so i just bring everyone back to the town square but they will be climbing up the ladders on my walls and the walls wont be big enough to hold 400+ orcs so they will just keep climbing so i dont have to worry but them

[Toho]

i ussually try to avoid seige battles for numerous reasons:
first the AI is generally retarded
two in most cases even if i am outnumbered 4 to 1 i can still manage to win
three and this is the most important part....IT TAKES SO FRIGGING LONG!

this is why i generally try to avoid all seige battles as much as I can. it is much more fun facing the enemy on the open and outnumbered.

[maxi90]

orcs are stupid. period.

[Lemoniser]

tatw uses germanicu5' AI i think. This is also, afaik the best ai out there for medi 2. I doubt there is much that could be done but what could be has been.

Edit: Bah wasted my 1000th post on this. I was saving it for my totw post but i got distracted. Oh well, hope my post was helpful (even though im sure it wasnt)

[NickTheGreek3]

orcs are stupid. period.

Edit: Bah wasted my 1000th post on this. I was saving it for my totw post but i got distracted. Oh well, hope my post was helpful (even though im sure it wasnt)

Now you'll have to wait until your 1999th post...

[Armaghost]

tatw uses germanicu5' AI i think. This is also, afaik the best ai out there for medi 2. I doubt there is much that could be done but what could be has been.

Edit: Bah wasted my 1000th post on this. I was saving it for my totw post but i got distracted. Oh well, hope my post was helpful (even though im sure it wasnt)

bwahahahaha