Changing Generals Bodyguard

[Armaghost]

Not sure whereI can ask this. But is there a way to change the High Elves bodyguard unit. I prefer Elronds BG unit over the Mounted Nobles a direction to where I can change this would be helpful

Footmen > Horsemen imo

[NickTheGreek3]

Not sure whereI can ask this. But is there a way to change the High Elves bodyguard unit. I prefer Elronds BG unit over the Mounted Nobles a direction to where I can change this would be helpful

Footmen > Horsemen imo

That's pretty easy, I've done it myself without any special modding skills. Go to descr_strat file in the data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign folder, scroll down until you find the general with the bodyguards you like. Copy the very first line of the units. For example:

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character Elrond, named character, male, leader, age 50, x 185, y 250, portrait Elrond, hero_ability Righteousness_of_Faith ;imladris
traits Elrond 1 , Factionleader 1 , GoodCommander 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , PublicFaith 2 , MathematicsSkill 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , Just 2 , KindRuler 2 , BattleChivalry 2
ancillaries vilya, leader_council, librarian, lord_imladris
army
unit Elf Spear_BG exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer2 exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

(you copy the line in bold)

Then you go to the line with the general you want to change, e.g.:

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character Elladan, named character, male, heir, age 22, x 60, y 252, portrait Elladan, battle_model elladan ;mithlond
traits Elladan 1 , Factionheir 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , Brave 1 , Loyal 1 , ChivalryLegacy 2
ancillaries lord_mithlond
army
unit Elf Nobel Mount exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

and replace the first line with the line you copied. So it should look like this:

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character Elladan, named character, male, heir, age 22, x 60, y 252, portrait Elladan, battle_model elladan ;mithlond
traits Elladan 1 , Factionheir 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , Brave 1 , Loyal 1 , ChivalryLegacy 2
ancillaries lord_mithlond
army
unit Elf Spear_BG exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Elf Archer exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

Now Elladan has Elrond's bodyguards as his bodyguards (that doesn't remove Elrond's bodyguards though, they both have the same bodyguards). You can do this as many times you want with any general.

[Noobio]

would changing the stats..exp/armour/weapon_lvl in just this file ,also work ? what would the max values ,for each one, be ?

[Armaghost]

now how would I do it for all High Elf Generals (I.E Adopted, Coming of Age, Man of the Hour)


also save game compatible yes or no?

[NickTheGreek3]

Nvm figured it out for all generals

OK then!

[Armaghost]

Hmm... don't know about that. Descr_strat changes only the generals spawning at the beginning of the campaign. You should ask this to the - Official 'Ask Questions About TATW 1.0 - 2.1 Here' Thread -
Also I think it's not save-compatible, though I could be wrong.

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OK then!

*puts on smart hat*

In Export_descr_Unit in /data folder change the following:

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type Elf Nobel Mount
dictionary Elf_Nobel_Mount ; Elven Nobels
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type General
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade
soldier Elf_Nobel_Mount, 12, 0, 1
mount heavy horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, general_unit
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 2, square
stat_health 1, 3
stat_pri 9, 9, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 11, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 8, 6, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground -1, -1, -3, -2
stat_mental 15, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 2, 860, 250, 100, 100, 860, 2, 250
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models Elf_Nobel_Mount, Elf_Nobel_Mount_upg
ownership egypt
era 0 egypt
era 1 egypt
era 2 egypt
recruit_priority_offset 5

in the attributes section remove the ', general_unit' and add it to another unit like say Elf Spear.

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type Elf Spear
dictionary Elf_Spear ; Eldar Spearmen
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier Elf_Spear, 48, 0, 1.2
officer highel_captain_early_flag
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit, general_unit
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, shield_wall
stat_health 1, 3
stat_pri 10, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr light_spear, spear_bonus_4
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 9, 6, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground 1, 0, 2, -1
stat_mental 15, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 2, 780, 310, 100, 100, 780, 2, 250
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models Elf_Spear, Elf_Spear_upg
ownership egypt
era 0 egypt
era 1 egypt
era 2 egypt
recruit_priority_offset 5

make sure only 1 has ', general_unit' or your game gets all messed up .


at least it seems to be that way :p

[NickTheGreek3]

*puts on smart hat*

In Export_descr_Unit in /data folder change the following:

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type Elf Nobel Mount
dictionary Elf_Nobel_Mount ; Elven Nobels
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type General
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade
soldier Elf_Nobel_Mount, 12, 0, 1
mount heavy horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, general_unit
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 2, square
stat_health 1, 3
stat_pri 9, 9, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 11, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 8, 6, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground -1, -1, -3, -2
stat_mental 15, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 2, 860, 250, 100, 100, 860, 2, 250
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models Elf_Nobel_Mount, Elf_Nobel_Mount_upg
ownership egypt
era 0 egypt
era 1 egypt
era 2 egypt
recruit_priority_offset 5

in the attributes section remove the ', general_unit' and add it to another unit like say Elf Spear.

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type Elf Spear
dictionary Elf_Spear ; Eldar Spearmen
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier Elf_Spear, 48, 0, 1.2
officer highel_captain_early_flag
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit, general_unit
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, shield_wall
stat_health 1, 3
stat_pri 10, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr light_spear, spear_bonus_4
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 9, 6, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground 1, 0, 2, -1
stat_mental 15, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 2, 780, 310, 100, 100, 780, 2, 250
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models Elf_Spear, Elf_Spear_upg
ownership egypt
era 0 egypt
era 1 egypt
era 2 egypt
recruit_priority_offset 5

make sure only 1 has ', general_unit' or your game gets all messed up .

Hey! Give me back my hat!

Yeah, thanks for the info, although I prefer to have mounted generals instead of dismounted (they are far too slow).
I've actually tried this while installing Taro's submod, in which many generals had dismounted bodyguards. I've tried to change that and also add some more buildings to my undeveloped towns. Result: whenever I pressed the start camapign button, all my settlements have gone rebel, the "victory conditions failed" window popped up and the game went back to the starting menu! There goes my first attempt to modding!
Fortunately I kept the original files as backup and it worked the second time (though I'm not doing this again! )

[NickTheGreek3]

would changing the stats..exp/armour/weapon_lvl in just this file ,also work ? what would the max values ,for each one, be ?

If you want to add e.g. more experience to a bodyguard unit, you can do it from here. If you want to change some non-bodyguard unit, you can change it modifying the export_descr_unit file found in the data folder.

[Armaghost]

Nvm figured it out for all generals

[MasterBigAb]

Is it just me or have we had like hundrets of threads asking how to chage a bodyguard already ?!

Anwsered & Closed