A TV crew viciously attacked by "students" and "scholars"

[Gromovnik]

It makes you wonder what really goes on in those places, if secrecy is so important that it justifies violence and theft:

So what really goes on in there, in your opinion?

[Yoda Twin]

Congratulations, you've discovered Al Quaeda's secret training facilities does Obama know about this?

[Captain Jin]

While they were certainly out of line in their response to the camera crew filming them there really is no context to this. For all we know that little school could be harassed continually by other people and so they may be overly sensitive or protective-- that can certainly be the case if a certain group or organization is suffering from problems within the community like possible anti-Muslim sentiment or some such. It doesn't justify their actions of course, but neither does it make what goes on inside their property more suspicious. I've seen people react pretty harshly to people trespassing or trying to sneak a peak on public property. Hell, in the US lots of people brandish guns when someone steps onto their property even if its done unknowingly in the case of people that own lots of land.

[tarvu]

How dare they prohibit a film crew from filming their documentary on how they are secretly training a new generation of terrorists in our backyard.

Coincidentally, I'm making movie about how you are secretly a racist skinhead, and I'd like to interview your children about how you indoctrinate them with your violent message of hate. I rented this TV crew damnit I have a right to know what it is you nazi scumbags are planning!!!

[Gromovnik]

How dare they prohibit a film crew from filming their documentary on how they are secretly training a new generation of terrorists in our backyard.

Coincidentally, I'm making movie about how you are secretly a racist skinhead, and I'd like to interview your children about how you indoctrinate them with your violent message of hate. I rented this TV crew damnit I have a right to know what it is you nazi scumbags are planning!!!

Great, I'll get some milk and cookies ready. But I won't shave my hair, it's not really my style.

[Lysimachos11]

While they were certainly out of line in their response to the camera crew filming them there really is no context to this. For all we know that little school could be harassed continually by other people and so they may be overly sensitive or protective-- that can certainly be the case if a certain group or organization is suffering from problems within the community like possible anti-Muslim sentiment or some such. It doesn't justify their actions of course, but neither does it make what goes on inside their property more suspicious. I've seen people react pretty harshly to people trespassing or trying to sneak a peak on public property. Hell, in the US lots of people brandish guns when someone steps onto their property even if its done unknowingly in the case of people that own lots of land.

Context is completely irrelevant. It's violent assault against two men that have stood in front of the gate for maybe a minute, and who had every right to stand there and film. Those Muslims were simply insane and should be deported immediately if you ask me.

[Menelik_I]

While they were certainly out of line in their response to the camera crew filming them there really is no context to this. For all we know that little school could be harassed continually by other people and so they may be overly sensitive or protective-- that can certainly be the case if a certain group or organization is suffering from problems within the community like possible anti-Muslim sentiment or some such. It doesn't justify their actions of course, but neither does it make what goes on inside their property more suspicious. I've seen people react pretty harshly to people trespassing or trying to sneak a peak on public property. Hell, in the US lots of people brandish guns when someone steps onto their property even if its done unknowingly in the case of people that own lots of land.

The Context is irrelevant, they managed to get them to stop filming the property, from there it was pure gratuitous violence.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

I would attack anybody i found on my private property with a camera in there hand...Or i should say i would release the rotties woof woof

[Gromovnik]

I would attack anybody i found on my private property with a camera in there hand...Or i should say i would release the rotties woof woof

and what if you see a guy in the public street filming something that you don't like?

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

and what if you see a guy in the public street filming something that you don't like?

Landmines are over there

[Border Patrol]

Send in the Old Guard of course!They never let me down, except for when they did. But we won't be talking about that.

[Dr. Croccer]

Welcome to France. A good reason not to vote for the likes of Wilders and such, because policies like that they want to exact is what made the situation what it is now in France.

[Menelik_I]

Welcome to France. A good reason not to vote for the likes of Wilders and such, because policies like that they want to exact is what made the situation what it is now in France.

So Wilders and Co cause Radical Islam or are merely a reaction to it ... not much love for Wilders, but this seems a ''Kill the Messenger'' attitude.

[Dr. Croccer]

So Wilders and Co cause Radical Islam or are merely a reaction to it ... not much love for Wilders, but this seems a ''Kill the Messenger'' attitude.

No, but the kind of reactions you get here are common in France because the immigrants that first came there were treated like , and now they're radicalized, aggressive racists who live largely isolated from French society. At first they were treated incredibly bad. Maybe even worse than the blacks in America at the time. Until the late 70s most lived in slums like these:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

It's obviously not as bad now, but still awful. It's a vicious circle as the immigrants become aggressive because they're poor and unemployed, and they're poor and unemployed because they're aggressive.

@Adar

The main reason they got so many votes back then was because they wanted to kick out all the non-western immigrants. I wasn't necessarily refering to Far Right parties in general, but that the actions of the French government from the 60s until quite recently have consisted mainly out of discrimination and neglect, which is biting them in the ass right now.

[Adar]

@Adar

The main reason they got so many votes back then was because they wanted to kick out all the non-western immigrants. I wasn't necessarily refering to Far Right parties in general, but that the actions of the French government from the 60s until quite recently have consisted mainly out of discrimination and neglect, which is biting them in the ass right now.

But compare to example Denmark (strong anti immigration party) with Sweden (politically marginalized anti immigration party). They got less ghettos than us and also a 10 % higher employment rate among immigrants. So the correlation between anti immigration parties and segregation looks quite weak in my opinion.

[Dr. Croccer]

But compare to example Denmark (strong anti immigration party) with Sweden (politically marginalized anti immigration party). They got less ghettos than us and also a 10 % higher employment rate among immigrants. So the correlation between anti immigration parties and segregation looks quite weak in my opinion.

Again, I never argued that there was correlation. I wasn't referring specifically to any Far Right French party, but to the actions of the French governments of the last 50 years.

[Menelik_I]

No, but the kind of reactions you get here are common in France because the immigrants that first came there were treated like , and now they're radicalized, aggressive racists who live largely isolated from French society. At first they were treated incredibly bad. Maybe even worse than the blacks in America at the time. Until the late 70s most lived in slums like these:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

It's obviously not as bad now, but still awful. It's a vicious circle as the immigrants become aggressive because they're poor and unemployed, and they're poor and unemployed because they're aggressive.

This doesn't add up not even a yota and it is completely unrelated.

One thing is youth getting in Banlieu gangs, which is part unemployment and poor education, another is this mini Jihadi dope which is not kook on his own right.

[motiv-8]

So Wilders and Co cause Radical Islam or are merely a reaction to it ... not much love for Wilders, but this seems a ''Kill the Messenger'' attitude.

No, you just don't get it. At this point they feed off each other. Wilders and Co are the flipside of the coin of radical Islamists in Europe and they feed off each other while all the normies watch and wonder how the these people were able to gain so much influence to begin with.

[xcorps]

No, you just don't get it. At this point they feed off each other. Wilders and Co are the flipside of the coin of radical Islamists in Europe and they feed off each other while all the normies watch and wonder how the these people were able to gain so much influence to begin with.

Win.

[Adar]

Welcome to France. A good reason not to vote for the likes of Wilders and such, because policies like that they want to exact is what made the situation what it is now in France.

That statement doesn't merge well with French election results.

Percentage voting for Front National
1973 0.5%
1978 0.3%
1981 0.2%
1986 9.7%
1988 9.7%
1993 12.7%
1997 15.0%
2002 11.3%
2007 4.3%

Front National looks to have been at it strongest at the same time as the Les Blues won the World Championship with a multicultural team. What France truely show is probably the dangers of giving people citizenship without integrating them into the society.