Bottleneck or not ?

[Ataegina]

i've run today windows 7 performance thing and i got this:

processor: 7,5
memory (ram): 7,5
graphics; 7,9
graphics (games): 7,9
HDD: 5,8

is my HDD bottlenecking my desktop performance (in special for gamming)? should i get a new HDD ?

if so would be WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLACK 1TB 64MB SATAIII (6GB/S) a good choice for new hdd?

need help please

[Nota']

Not really unless you are having problems with loading times. Thats a good HD, you could only really improve with a super high speed (~10000RPM) one, RAID, or SSD.

[Crazyeyesreaper]

Windows Experience Index is usless garbage, all HDDs will score low and all SSDs will score high,

hdd only impacts loading and install speeds for the most part unless you have little ram and the HDD gets used as a page file,
otherwise no it dosent impact performance at all
if you really want a larger HDD, samsung F3 1TB is the best for the price usually $20-30 cheaper then westerndigital and slightly faster, and before you say its not SATA III, that has 0 impact on performance unless dealing with SSD drives.

To wrap things up
Windows Experience Index score is usless
a new hdd wont improve gaming performance
the only reason to get an hdd is for more space
10,000rpm raptor drives have faster access times but are slower then modern 1tb drives in terms of read write performance
Samsung F3 1tb = fastest 1TB drive currently available and cheapest as well.

[Ataegina]

Not really unless you are having problems with loading times. Thats a good HD, you could only really improve with a super high speed (~10000RPM) one, RAID, or SSD.

well loading times doesnt bother me much more 10seconds more 10 seconds isnt a big deal to me. i'm only focus ingame performance.

Windows Experience Index is usless garbage, all HDDs will score low and all SSDs will score high,

hdd only impacts loading and install speeds for the most part unless you have little ram and the HDD gets used as a page file,
otherwise no it dosent impact performance at all
if you really want a larger HDD, samsung F3 1TB is the best for the price usually $20-30 cheaper then westerndigital and slightly faster, and before you say its not SATA III, that has 0 impact on performance unless dealing with SSD drives.

To wrap things up
Windows Experience Index score is usless
a new hdd wont improve gaming performance
the only reason to get an hdd is for more space
10,000rpm raptor drives have faster access times but are slower then modern 1tb drives in terms of read write performance
Samsung F3 1tb = fastest 1TB drive currently available and cheapest as well.

thanks, that was a very clarifying reply

so on this case i may just buy some cheap hdd just for the extra space sake

[Nota']

so on this case i may just buy some cheap hdd just for the extra space sake

Caviar greens make decent storage drives, low power and heat etc, but not good for gaming at all. Keep the games on your current faster drive.

[Ataegina]

i'm aiming for minimum of 500gb/32mb cache/7200rpm. this is my current bar for hdd, this specs or better but never less

[Crazyeyesreaper]

just grab a Samsung F3 1tb there usually $69 usd, Caviar Green is $64 you pay $5 more and you get essentially the fastest 1TB drive still available, Caviar blacks depending on which variation or platter density are the same speed or slower at nearly $20 higher at $89,

so $69 vs 89 on the fastest 1tb choice

$69 fastest $64 for the slowest, dropping from a 1tb Samsung F3 to say a 500gb caviar blue only saves $15 usd. not really worth the saving at half the capacity and about 20% slower overall

[Nota']

just grab a Samsung F3 1tb there usually $69 usd, Caviar Green is $64 you pay $5 more and you get essentially the fastest 1TB drive still available, Caviar blacks depending on which variation or platter density are the same speed or slower at nearly $20 higher at $89,

so $69 vs 89 on the fastest 1tb choice

$69 fastest $64 for the slowest, dropping from a 1tb Samsung F3 to say a 500gb caviar blue only saves $15 usd. not really worth the saving at half the capacity and about 20% slower overall

May I ask why you have a 500GB WD HD on your sig rig? Salvage from a past machine?

Edit: That said this was the only 2TB drive with your other min specs (from that company), if its lots of space you want.

[Nota']

Yerp, I would have advised that but the OP said he wanted 7200RPM. Would help if he said what the drive was for (i assume storage). That said he never asked for my help

[AlfonsoVIII]

just grab a Samsung F3 1tb there usually $69 usd, Caviar Green is $64 you pay $5 more and you get essentially the fastest 1TB drive still available, Caviar blacks depending on which variation or platter density are the same speed or slower at nearly $20 higher at $89,

so $69 vs 89 on the fastest 1tb choice

$69 fastest $64 for the slowest, dropping from a 1tb Samsung F3 to say a 500gb caviar blue only saves $15 usd. not really worth the saving at half the capacity and about 20% slower overall

I have 2 RAID 1 Samsung F3 and has zero problems with them, very quiet. I wouldnt trust any capactiy higher than that, too many errors and failures right now.

[Crazyeyesreaper]

yes its a very very very very very old 500gb drive it was manufacturered in 2005 bought it when 500gb drives were stil around $125-135 usd lol.

and wow

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Pr...5-inch-5400rpm

samsung F4 2tb low power drive nearly half price compared to WD i didnt think the price difference would be that large in the UK

[Crazyeyesreaper]

lol all we can do is give a person options that best fit what they need. everyones opinion is different, granted i own HDDs from just about every company there is and honestly dont care what i use i just go for best price / performance / gb offered, since in reality most hdds will be so close performance wise in each performance bracket it dosent matter what a person grabs.

[Ataegina]

well the thing left from my original desktop is the HDD,DVD-R. so my HDD is the same of origin seagate barracuda...... 3-4years old o.O very noisy.........

[Crazyeyesreaper]

yea samsung F3 is pretty much fastest quietest 1tb drive on the market and at its price range, so if you want a newer faster hdd its the 1 to grab, especially since there not being made anymore, Seagate bought Samsungs HDD division meaning all the awesomeness is gone,

fastest low capacity hdd is the Samsung F4 320gb, at near 150-160mb/s read write no drive comes close and the 1tb F3 is the fastest 1tb currently and dirt cheap, Western digital will take the lead again by the end of the year since seagate has to absorb the new tech and put it to use. So if you need cheap capacity 2tb F4 if you need cheap capacity and speed F3 1tb, need a fast boot drive thats cheap 320gb F4 7200rpm

[♔KillZoneGB♔]

for gaming

Example

may i suggest in shutting down all the bloatware @ the start up. IE disable tablet, Nvidia`s 3d graphic drivers (keep aero running) Ideal would be to aim for 40 ish Processes (one settled from cold boot up, firewall and security programs still running) Appearance Does this really matter? Well to some it does, then there others, that just don`t care. For me i fall into the latter, manly because i like to use the fastest part of the memory, hence all the fancy aero stuff to basic, no sounds, god i`m boring hehe Hard Drive try to keep you files together, a un optimized HDD can often cost you 20fps on average, worst case scenario stuttering and incresed loading times. Clean, consolidate HDD, install the game then consolidate again for good measure. Regarding patches Best to unistall, consolidate, install game, add patch then consolidate. (have the patch on a separate HDD/USB memory Stick,DVD) 32bit applications on a 64bit o/s Maybe create a 1gig ram drive and tell windows to use the page file on the Ram Drive. fix for 32 bit applications running over 3.5gig (including gpu memory) If you want to trim the system down even further. (note for anyone) goto the bios settings, and shut down port that will never be used. IE Com ports,(old serial printer ports RS232) (most likely you use a USB port?) Note for Wireless systems. you can disable the Lan Port, only if you have set up your wireless beforehand If you have to install wireless drivers, you will need to enable the Lan port. cant wait for my upgrade Footnote What`s the point in using valuable cpu cycles,if you don't use em and all that Anyhoo that`s old skool console way of gaming. This should put a spring in your fps and I/O devices

[Ataegina]

i've found some cheap samsung f3 1 tb but this is 16mb cache, how can it be faster than 32-64 cache hdd's ?

[atraps]

a un optimized HDD can often cost you 20fps on average

So an "unoptimized" hard drive is going to cost me 20 fps in Crysis? I'm sorry but that's just false information.

i've found some cheap samsung f3 1 tb but this is 16mb cache, how can it be faster than 32-64 cache hdd's ?

As far as I know Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB drives have 32MB caches.

[Ataegina]

yes thats correct, my apologies. i've confused with the 500gb wich is 16mb, the 1tb is 32mb like you said