[RS 2.1a] "Demise of the Republic" Download/Information Thread

[endel2005]

First time it happened was one turn before the script tells you to go to the rubicon...before that i believe i left him in forts etc..not sure..

Second time: no sir not at all.. maybe its not happening to you because its not at a key moment in the script? for example when your told to bring the 13th to the rubicon. if he stays in the fort crash.. stick him in Bononia no problem.. and no matter how many times i crash out and try again it happens till you put him in a city

ive had to chracter reset him a few times to get him to a city otherwise crash out...

[CPT Worsham]

First time it happened was one turn before the script tells you to go to the rubicon...before that i believe i left him in forts etc..not sure..

Second time: no sir not at all.. maybe its not happening to you because its not at a key moment in the script? for example when your told to bring the 13th to the rubicon. if he stays in the fort crash.. stick him in Bononia no problem.. and no matter how many times i crash out and try again it happens till you put him in a city

ive had to chracter reset him a few times to get him to a city otherwise crash out...

That is the problem exactly. I thought this was happening to you immediately after the Siege of Alesia, but it was the Rubicon event instead. Now it all makes sense.

The Rubicon crash is something that has always been present. The reason it occurs is because the script is designed to move Caesar to the Rubicon, but it can only move him if he is in the field rather than garrisoned. If he is garrisoned when he is suppose to be moving to the Rubicon the engine will flip out and crash. This is why I programed the advisor to tell the player to move Caesar and his 13th Legion to the River Rubicon.

[endel2005]

Before I gripe I want to say I enjoy playing this mod..

It needs to say move him to the Rubicon but dont put him a barracks lol. Ive run into 2 more problems.. one is a glitch other is an absolute annoyance..

1. When I moved ceasar to the rubicon and put him inside the city.. then the long script came when he was talking to the troops.. then i marched ceasar with the 13th to rome.. now Bononia has ceasars face as governor.. yet ceasar is in rome lol.

2. After you conquer and area and all the cities defect back to you on the next round they are all filled with troops.. now because of that my income is - and i have to spend 1/2 hour empty them out and then do the same for the next area when it happened again.. all this time im paying for troops on that round that causes my cash to deminish.. is there a way we can stop this? it should be assumed when you take a city you bring along adequate garrison troops and governor.. so i would think there was no need for that.. maybe only one troop per city instead of the whole city being slammed full of untrained troops that need to be disbanded?

3. It completely sucks that I we don't have ballistas... It makes pacifying each region hugely expensive and tedious..

4. Its agravating that I spend money for the WHOLE of the Roman republic building walls etc.. just to have to besiege the cities later.. gaul should be the focus of ceasar not the whole of the republic.. there was a mod once that was created that made everything static until the march on Rome. Is this possible? If not possible then it might be interesting to make it a 2 part mod.. one part being just gaul then after you finish that mod you go to another mod to play everything else..

[Ren the Unclean]

I read Endel2005's comments and agree with most of them, minus Number 4. (I am fine with managing the whole of the republic/empire until the Civil War starts.) I have a different set of comments/wishes:

1. Start the game with the existing historical legions in their historical areas. The only two legions in existence in the beginning of the game is Legio XI and XIII. However, there were numerous other legions present in Gaul in 52 BC, previously levied by Caesar and Pompeii (Legio V, Legio VI, Legio VII, Legio VIII, Legio IX, Legio X, etc.). To address this, I used the console codes for create_unit to make a custom starting game file, but improving the mod I think would be a better solution long term.

2. When the civil war kicks off, all of Pompeii's rebel cities have full stacks but field armies are limited to historical engagement areas. This turns the game into siege-fest. I think it would be much more realistic to have smaller spawned garrisons in most cities with more powerful field armies. I am not an expert in Roman history, but from the research I've done it appears that sieges were not a defining part of the Caesar-Pompeii Civil War. An occasional siege here and there is okay, but too many and the game gets repetitively boring and looses its historical feel.

Other than these comments and the ones I read earlier, its great! I give you kudos for an excellent campaign.

[michell]

Hi
I'm new in RS2 forum so forgive me this question: is any possibility to make this submod playable with RTW-BI exe?

[CPT Worsham]

Hi
I'm new in RS2 forum so forgive me this question: is any possibility to make this submod playable with RTW-BI exe?

The reason this mod will not work with BI is because it uses ALEX exclusive features such as character specific models & portraits.

I read Endel2005's comments and agree with most of them, minus Number 4. (I am fine with managing the whole of the republic/empire until the Civil War starts.) I have a different set of comments/wishes:

1. Start the game with the existing historical legions in their historical areas. The only two legions in existence in the beginning of the game is Legio XI and XIII. However, there were numerous other legions present in Gaul in 52 BC, previously levied by Caesar and Pompeii (Legio V, Legio VI, Legio VII, Legio VIII, Legio IX, Legio X, etc.). To address this, I used the console codes for create_unit to make a custom starting game file, but improving the mod I think would be a better solution long term.

2. When the civil war kicks off, all of Pompeii's rebel cities have full stacks but field armies are limited to historical engagement areas. This turns the game into siege-fest. I think it would be much more realistic to have smaller spawned garrisons in most cities with more powerful field armies. I am not an expert in Roman history, but from the research I've done it appears that sieges were not a defining part of the Caesar-Pompeii Civil War. An occasional siege here and there is okay, but too many and the game gets repetitively boring and looses its historical feel.

Other than these comments and the ones I read earlier, its great! I give you kudos for an excellent campaign.

Both you and Endel make some good points. I'll keep these things in mind for the next patch.

[Pro-opera Jungian]

Firstly, I'd like to say I love the mod so far, what it looks like, the campaign, ditto, ditto, etc, etc.

But I'm having some trouble. I win the first Siege of Alesia Battle, but then the moment I start up any other battle on the campaign against Gallic Rebels etc, the moment the battle starts I crash.

Help please...?

[CPT Worsham]

Firstly, I'd like to say I love the mod so far, what it looks like, the campaign, ditto, ditto, etc, etc.

But I'm having some trouble. I win the first Siege of Alesia Battle, but then the moment I start up any other battle on the campaign against Gallic Rebels etc, the moment the battle starts I crash.

Help please...?

Please upload a saved game at the point just before you crash and explain to me which armies you are engaging and where. I will use your saved game to see if I get the same crash.

[Pro-opera Jungian]

Please upload a saved game at the point just before you crash and explain to me which armies you are engaging and where. I will use your saved game to see if I get the same crash.

Ok, this probably sounds stupid, but how do I upload a saved game?

If it helps, the armies were Antony's on two occasions and Caesar on two occasions. Four times after the siege of Alesia ends, I use their army to attack the rebel army the adviser points to, and the game either crashes before the battle load screen or immediately once the battle loads.

[LEGIONARY_HAWK]

Hi i've recently downloaded and installed RS II and Demise of the republic ,RS II working but when i installed your submod (which i really cant wait to paly) and opened the game i get black screen and its not a crash the game is working i can even hear its music but i can see nothing,so i replaced preferences file of the submod with the file of the original game so it worked but when i play the campaign i played siege of Alesia and won noone was killed but when i end turn nothing happens ,no revolt no civil war nothing i've played till 13th turn only fighting barbarians .
please i need your help and sorry for my long question

[Altzek]

THE HASMONEANS?


*starts downloading*

[CPT Worsham]

Ok, this probably sounds stupid, but how do I upload a saved game?

If it helps, the armies were Antony's on two occasions and Caesar on two occasions. Four times after the siege of Alesia ends, I use their army to attack the rebel army the adviser points to, and the game either crashes before the battle load screen or immediately once the battle loads.

You have to use advanced reply option. At the bottom of the screen you will find the option to upload files.

Hi i've recently downloaded and installed RS II and Demise of the republic ,RS II working but when i installed your submod (which i really cant wait to paly) and opened the game i get black screen and its not a crash the game is working i can even hear its music but i can see nothing,so i replaced preferences file of the submod with the file of the original game so it worked but when i play the campaign i played siege of Alesia and won noone was killed but when i end turn nothing happens ,no revolt no civil war nothing i've played till 13th turn only fighting barbarians .
please i need your help and sorry for my long question

Sounds like everything is working correctly. The civil war does not start until January of 49BC

THE HASMONEANS?


*starts downloading*

The Hasmoneans were the ruling faction of Judea in the 1st century BC.

[LEGIONARY_HAWK]

Really but i think that the senate sent to ceaser to disband his army at 50 bc and he agreed if pompey did as well but pompey refused thats why i thought i should get any warning in 50 bc ..................So anyway thank u so much for answering me and i really appreciate your efforts and love your work

[CPT Worsham]

REALLY BUT I THINK THAT THE SENATE SENT TO CEASER TO DISBAND HIS ARMY AT 50 BC AND HE AGREED IF POMPEY DID AS WELL BUT POMPEY REFUSED THATS WHY I THOUGHT I SHOULD GET ANY WARNING IN 50 BC ..................SO ANYWAY THANK U SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING ME AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND LOVE YOUR WORK

If I recall correctly you will get the said warning in December 50BC.

[DonRaphael]

I don't understand, what is this kind of off mod? Is it a normal mod as all other mods where you just play and expand in whichever direction you like or is it a mod where you are supposed to expand to certain territories and follow a historical path/timeframe? Sorry for the stupid question

[CPT Worsham]

I don't understand, what is this kind of off mod? Is it a normal mod as all other mods where you just play and expand in whichever direction you like or is it a mod where you are supposed to expand to certain territories and follow a historical path/timeframe? Sorry for the stupid question

Your question is not stupid. In terms of expansion of borders this sub-mod was designed to allow exansion anywhere, but you will only be able to pacify the regions that Rome was able to pacify. There was a reason that Rome never settled any territories beyond the Danube and River Rhine.

[DonRaphael]

Your question is not stupid. In terms of expansion of borders this sub-mod was designed to allow exansion anywhere, but you will only be able to pacify the regions that Rome was able to pacify. There was a reason that Rome never settled any territories beyond the Danube and River Rhine.

I see, and what will happen if one tries to expand to those non-historically-Roman territories?

Thanks for the fast answer btw =)

[CPT Worsham]

I see, and what will happen if one tries to expand to those non-historically-Roman territories?

Thanks for the fast answer btw =)

You will face very stiff and never ending resistance. It is best just to raid and exterminate those territories.

[Pro-opera Jungian]

Good news! I got it to finally work and the mod is amazing! But I was wondering, in my campaign, Lepidus drowned at sea three turns into the game. Will that be a problem for later on during the 2nd Triumvirate?

[CPT Worsham]

Good news! I got it to finally work and the mod is amazing! But I was wondering, in my campaign, Lepidus drowned at sea three turns into the game. Will that be a problem for later on during the 2nd Triumvirate?

I'm happy to hear it is working for you. Lepidus' death will not create any negative effects for your campaign.