Why did you mod the skins Darth?

[Balcaamb]

Did you think creating a challenging and smart A.I. was not enough? A mod solely built for changing RTW's weakest point into its strongest would have been more than any RTW gamer could have hoped for. Why did you feel you had to change more? The unit graphics is one of the strong points in RTW, it needed to be left alone....modded skins in RTW don't look half as good graphically as the original RTW skins designed by CA. Even RTR has proven this.
I"m dissapointed that someone with your modding skills didn't realise this. So now what could have been 'the must have A.I. and battle tactics improvement download' has turned into Rome Total Darthmod. Such a waste in my opinion.
Maybe I sound bitter.... because I am. I've played some hours of custom battles with your mod and I think what you did to the A.I. is amazing. However I want to play against good A.I. with professional unit design ( no offense to all you skin modders, but the means to create this you do not have) and not with modded units...

[DARTH VADER]

@Balcaamb: First of all thank you for your points. The AI manipulation and gameplay is my main modding effort from the start. As for the graphics...I disagree and bcs not that the combined work of the skin modelleres is so good but bcs CA unit graphics = crap.
You must wear sun-glasses for your eyes not to hurt from the bright colors. And also skeletons are CA's most of them....only the textures and cols change and with that effort (not paid) by all of us, produces outcome that me and I think most of those who use mods (not only mine) agree that is worth it.

[Kagemusha]

Did you think creating a challenging and smart A.I. was not enough? A mod solely built for changing RTW's weakest point into its strongest would have been more than any RTW gamer could have hoped for. Why did you feel you had to change more? The unit graphics is one of the strong points in RTW, it needed to be left alone....modded skins in RTW don't look half as good graphically as the original RTW skins designed by CA. Even RTR has proven this.
I"m dissapointed that someone with your modding skills didn't realise this. So now what could have been 'the must have A.I. and battle tactics improvement download' has turned into Rome Total Darthmod. Such a waste in my opinion.
Maybe I sound bitter.... because I am. I've played some hours of custom battles with your mod and I think what you did to the A.I. is amazing. However I want to play against good A.I. with professional unit design ( no offense to all you skin modders, but the means to create this you do not have) and not with modded units...

This is really unique opinion.You are seriously suggesting that the original RTW skins are better then any modded skins?

[Balcaamb]

Well...yes. And with how they look I don't mean what cloths they wearing, their colours or weapons anything... In that case I agree that modded units look better. However when it comes to texture quality and animation of the units CA's design is noticably better than any modded ones. In that way modded skins look like low unit detail CA skins....

Anyway thats just my opinion. I have not a single bad thing to mention about the A.I. Modifications, which are awesome. I just wish this mod would have been a 100% A.I. improvement mod, because the A.I is the only lacking thing in RTW IMO....

[HorseArcher]

However when it comes to texture quality and animation of the units CA's design is noticably better than any modded ones. In that way modded skins look like low unit detail CA skins....

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are you saying

that (for example Prometheus_TS skins) these have a lower texture quality than CA's skins? are you sure you know what you are saying?
Or are you talking about darthmod-specific textures only?

[DARTH VADER]

Animation is not modded also in my mod.Texture quality CA=simple. plain, eye-hurting, balanced quality. Modders-textures=Unique, realism based, some minor defects exist in some but have to be checked thoroughly. In DarthMod the textures and skins used are those which do the following:

Provide a decent realism and eye-candy effect and most importantly....they do not lag the system.

Most mods produce textures and graphics unsupported for the RTW-engine or do not use sprites or have not 4 scaled lo-res skeletons so unbelievable lag exists.
Then players think that their computer is the fault.
No....you may have a point to this last...but DarthMod is created for high frame -rates just like the original RTW or even more (with certain other particle and trail effects adjustments

[Hamilcar Barca]

Honestly, have you even compared ferres' Roman skins with the vanilla skins? The new ones honestly look better. Also, if you want just the formations, download Darth Formations. He hasn't released the standalone version for 1.5 yet, but he will. That's obviously what you want.

[Biges]

Did you think creating a challenging and smart A.I. was not enough? A mod solely built for changing RTW's weakest point into its strongest would have been more than any RTW gamer could have hoped for. Why did you feel you had to change more? The unit graphics is one of the strong points in RTW, it needed to be left alone....modded skins in RTW don't look half as good graphically as the original RTW skins designed by CA. Even RTR has proven this.
I"m dissapointed that someone with your modding skills didn't realise this. So now what could have been 'the must have A.I. and battle tactics improvement download' has turned into Rome Total Darthmod. Such a waste in my opinion.
Maybe I sound bitter.... because I am. I've played some hours of custom battles with your mod and I think what you did to the A.I. is amazing. However I want to play against good A.I. with professional unit design ( no offense to all you skin modders, but the means to create this you do not have) and not with modded units...

I think this opinion has it's truth. I feel like many mods are just based on new skins etc., neglecting other aspects of the game (in other words - extensive changes instead of intensive). This is not the case of Darth's mod, but I'm sad this mod did fall to the tempation of uncontrolled size expansion. Maybe a mod that is not large enough is not considered good mod.
Hm. Realism. Maybe the game should simulate some sight problems, you know, even romans generals had problems with sight. Blurring entire screen may work.

[Legione]

I like the different skins in a mod, it shows some of the modders unique taste imo, I'm always eager to see what skins a mod has picked to represent their unit.

[Carach]

Ca's skins better than all modded skins? Your having a laugh surely? your the ONLY person ive seen that thinks so.

[Boudicca]

Strange indeed. I was so happy to get rid of CA's skins that I basically downloaded any game mod that would add new skins. I am very eager to see what Darth has provided this time with his 7.0 version.

[Lusted]

Very strange, i am one of many who think that us modders greatly improve the look of the game.

I feel that these(romans, my own work):



look much better than the CA skins.

[wipeout140]

User created skins are normally always better, Unit Cards is different matter

[KALI]

Even RTR has proven this.

Stunning... You really prefer flourescent pink Parthians or armies decked out head to toe in turquoise, to what RTR has achieved. Granted some skins on these forums aren't as good as some of CA's and CA's use of a body moulding effect in fabrics is not as present as it could be in some skins. But I couldn't play RTW with vanilla skins purley because CA's choice of colours is stomach churning. Looks like they've got it right with MTWII though.

[Sidus Preclarum]

.modded skins in RTW don't look half as good graphically as the original RTW skins designed by CA. Even RTR has proven this.

http://www.yellowpages.com/sp/yellow...equestid=82453

[booker]

Well i think the Original poster have a point.

it is not that some skins are worth than the CA skins but i do have a problem playing "half" modded games.

The main problem with some Mods are that they do mod 1 part but they don´t mod the other... For example DM, it modded the Skins but at the same time it left the Old UI cards.

Or some Mod replace some UI cards but leave the older UI card for older units..

Personally i like to play a Proffesional game and by this i´m not saying some skins are better or worst than CA but i want to play afull package, if they mod the Skins, do the UI cards as well or don´t do it.

At the end of the day, it´s all about gameplay so...

[Ahlerich]

i kinda get his point too. i disagree that ca's units are nicer but many mods slow down my system too much (i have a weak system that barely takes huge battles in medium video settings) so thats something that matters for me too. also in some mods units fool around more often (phalanx going crazy etc). also sprites i think are very important..when i play bi and have really amazingly beautyfull skins but when i scroll out my white units turn back into the frankish blue, that bugs me . beautyful skins are amazing but they add to the gameplay only if done properly (animations,formations,unit cards,sprites working).
anyways i was happy to read that darth as well as lt put effort in keeping or even improving the overall performance. that is what working class gamers like me, who cant affort highend pcs each few months, want!

[SARMATIAN LEADER]

well somehow Balcaamb has a point in this,but i prefer to see some great skins than these stupid vanilla CA's skins,even they lack some details modded skins i've seen so far is a real pro work,compared to the amateur work of CA!well i surely prefer that work even if it has some flaws!

[caratacus]

I guess CA did a good job fo Balcaamb, Well either that or perhaps he is one of their skinners!!!

However I looked forward to RTW for a long time prior to its release and was disappointed by the game. The skins were too bright and garish and little thourght had been given to historical accuracy. I mean Incendiary Pigs, Head Hurlers BLARRR!!

For the past 7 months I have been downloading various skins and mods and now there is now hardly a week without me engaging in some campaign or other.

A big thankyou for all of the contributors to this community, without whom I for one would have put this game away along time ago.

[viramur]

the vanilla skins are good. some mods have aweful skins all blocky. most skins look the same except different armor especially legionary cohorts. but it is good to see new skins in mods if they are new.