HUGE GAP BETWEEN SCIITI AND MACEDONIAN

**Dienice** · April 30, 2011, 10:51 AM

guys i'm playing campain with macedonian in max difficulty and i haven't won any battle vs sciiti.. cause HA makes many kills(70%) and seems like they have infinite arrow.. expecially royal HA.
they are invincible,i can do nothing... for exp if i fight with my best army vs a medium sciiti army composed by 3 HA,i lose the battle before my infatry attacks LOL!
how to balance this gap, it's unplayable

**Blatta Optima Maxima** · April 30, 2011, 10:52 AM

Don't play arcade style battles?

**Dienice** · April 30, 2011, 10:53 AM

no i don't..

**Nota'** · April 30, 2011, 01:24 PM

It is max difficulty and HAs are a

. Have fun when you rock with Parthia. Theres a few how to beat HA threads about but I'm not sure they will apply when HAs have such a big bonus.

**Caesar_1991** · April 30, 2011, 01:25 PM

HA's get slaughtered by foot archers.

**DarthLazy** · May 01, 2011, 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by Caesar_1991

HA's get slaughtered by foot archers.

No.

**waidizss** · May 02, 2011, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by |Sith|2|Lazyo

No.

In my Roman campaign i seem to deal pretty well with HA using my archers. And of course cavalry, with proper flanking, slaughters HA.

**DarthLazy** · May 05, 2011, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by waidizss

In my Roman campaign i seem to deal pretty well with HA using my archers. And of course cavalry, with proper flanking, slaughters HA.

Proper HA dont sit around in one place waiting to be shot

**Nota'** · April 30, 2011, 01:28 PM

Problem is, if it comes down to a fire fight, the human player looses the advantage of superior tactical ability, so it will come down on to numbers and stats, and he's given them way better attack. Maybe if you use loose formation you could pull it off, but I've seen the AI bring HA into melee when I've done that.

**General Brittanicus** · April 30, 2011, 03:35 PM

You're playing on max difficulty? Does that mean your playing on VH/VH, because that would give the AI some insanely crazy benefits due to VH battle difficulty being bugged (At least i think its battle difficulty, could be the campaign one instead). And if you cant beat them in the field just fight sieges against them.

**Dienice** · May 01, 2011, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by General Brittanicus

You're playing on max difficulty? Does that mean your playing on VH/VH, because that would give the AI some insanely crazy benefits due to VH battle difficulty being bugged (At least i think its battle difficulty, could be the campaign one instead). And if you cant beat them in the field just fight sieges against them.

yes it's right i thought this idea but if i assault a city they arrive with 2 full armies and i'm

***ed.. the problem is my best general are conquering the fenicia

**Nota'** · April 30, 2011, 04:03 PM

VH campaign gives you same bonuses as AI. VH battle just gives insane bonuses to AI troops.

**pechad** · April 30, 2011, 08:15 PM

offtopic but
WHAT UNIT IS HA?
i see it in every thread
lol

**mudang** · April 30, 2011, 08:48 PM

HA = horse archers .. the bane of all infantry based armies, especially lightly armoured barbarians.

**Lycaner** · April 30, 2011, 11:17 PM

Fight fire with Fire , try train HA to fight HA......(a few citys at upper left of the map can train Alan horse archers )
Although them are not that good then sciiti 's HA , but them are cheap & low upkeep

**Dienice** · May 01, 2011, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Lycaner

Fight fire with Fire , try train HA to fight HA......(a few citys at upper left of the map can train Alan horse archers )
Although them are not that good then sciiti 's HA , but them are cheap & low upkeep

i'm fighting here the sciiti and i can't advance

**ISA Gunner** · May 01, 2011, 03:22 AM

If you put battles on VH, dont complain about HAs utterly destroying your foot-based armies. VH battle difficulty gives the AI something along the lines of +7 attack, +7 defence and +7 morale if im not mistaken. Unless you want an unfair challenge, play with battles of M as neither you or the AI get bonuses.

**DarthLazy** · May 01, 2011, 12:46 PM

Its Scythia not Scytii

**tone** · May 03, 2011, 12:46 AM

As others have said, don't try to play the campaign on VH as it's actually easier than hard due to an RTW bug. By all means try battles on VH, but you will find them extremely challenging and somewhat unrealistic

**Monophthalamus Magnus** · June 24, 2011, 03:46 AM

Horse archers in vanilla RTW are noobs for they can only form a Cantabarian circle.....a total misrepresentation of HA in the real world.....just refer to the Monguls and their westward expansion.....their agility, their robust composite bows, their speed in addition of powerful generals just swept across Europe....those slow moving European knights just got butchered.....moreover HA would not be finished off by a simple flanking movement...at Hattin Saladin's HA, as illustrated, refused to accept the charge of the knights...they manipulated their own advantage of agility by running to the flanks of the latter and shoot those poor knights down.....if it is the case, HAs in real world could have already outran u and outrange u by firing with their bows...the two great military leaders, Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan received their amazingly same epiphet"Flagellum Dei"(Scourge of God in Latin) due to the extensive use of one chief and primary weapon....THE HA...so if Creative Assembly are to make R2TW, I hope they could make amendments to that....