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    Default Egypt to open Gaza crossing.

    Source: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...pened-1.358690

    So, yeah, good, bad? I personally think this is a good thing, but then, maybe I'm just crazy. How will Israel react? Thats what I'm more interested in to be honest.
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    When they will see how many terrorists will pass the border to Egypt soon they will close it again.

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    Well, since the Palestinian security forces are uniting, meaning fatah will now help patrol the Gaza strip, I personally think we're gonna see a lot less rocket attacks on Israel, Gaza will no longer be an islamist haven, they will have to work for it.
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    And then we'll have another flotilla or some similar bs...
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    A flotilla is already planned for July, it was delayed till after the Turkish elections have been held.
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    Default Re: Egypt to open Gaza crossing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    Source: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...pened-1.358690

    So, yeah, good, bad? I personally think this is a good thing, but then, maybe I'm just crazy. How will Israel react? Thats what I'm more interested in to be honest.
    Do they leave Palestinians permanently leave Gaza or they have to fulfil their sacred duty as martyr

    More violence is the inevitable result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    Do they leave Palestinians permanently leave Gaza or they have to fulfil their sacred duty as martyr

    More violence is the inevitable result.
    How is more violence inevitable? Maybe amongst Palestinains, not agaisnt Israel though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    How is more violence inevitable? Maybe amongst Palestinains, not agaisnt Israel though.
    Hamed and Rachid would be more than happy to smuggle explosives and weapons on the surface than in tunnels 50m below ground ... and nobody will obviously shoot rockets at Israel.

    Could somebody clarify wether Palestinians are allowed to leave Gaze now ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    Hamed and Rachid would be more than happy to smuggle explosives and weapons on the surface than in tunnels 50m below ground ... and nobody will obviously shoot rockets at Israel.

    Could somebody clarify wether Palestinians are allowed to leave Gaze now ?
    The border will be open... I'm assuming they can do whatever they want. There might be the normal customs things. But you said the increase of violence is inevitable, what you just described is the same going on as before the reconciliation and the opening of the border. Thats not a change, and I find it unrealistic to imagine that the situation will remain static.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    The border will be open... I'm assuming they can do whatever they want. There might be the normal customs things. But you said the increase of violence is inevitable, what you just described is the same going on as before the reconciliation and the opening of the border. Thats not a change, and I find it unrealistic to imagine that the situation will remain static.
    Why are you ignoring the second part of my question ?

    Are Palestinians allowed to leave Gaza ? Because the only thing that could stop the Hamas insanity is Gaza bleeding people who can't stand their idiotic behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    So, yeah, good, bad?
    Well, quite a few TWC users are already getting butt-hurt about it, so I can only see it as a good thing getting better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motiv-8 View Post
    Well, quite a few TWC users are already getting butt-hurt about it, so I can only see it as a good thing getting better.
    Why? Clearly Egypt doesn't know what is risking giving free access to terrorists. Remember Jordan and later Lebanon?

    In fact Israel should rejoice because if Egypt will assume much more responsibility over Gaza later it will have to crush those terrorists for the sake of its own security.

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    Interesting, i dont know much about the politics of the region, but this sounds like a good thing.



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    If that were so, why did no one leave permanently (Or at the very least, I can't find any reports that say many did) in the 2008 border breach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    If that were so, why did no one leave permanently (Or at the very least, I can't find any reports that say many did) in the 2008 border breach?
    Where would they go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromovnik View Post
    Where would they go?
    Egypt? And from there, anywhere? Where would they go if they left now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    Egypt? And from there, anywhere? Where would they go if they left now?
    And what if Egypt wouldn't have them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromovnik View Post
    And what if Egypt wouldn't have them?
    Then Meneliks point is false.

    EDIT: In that they won't be able to leave. Or emigrate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromovnik View Post
    And what if Egypt wouldn't have them?
    Don't worry, the Arabs love the Palestinians so much that they can't stand them ... much less treat them like citizens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    1.5 million, thats half the population, according to the UN, left during 2008, obviously the majority who left returned. Maybe it has changed, I don't know, maybe they will leave. We'll see.
    I actually hope they do, the biggest tragedy is anchoring them there for this idiotic state worship.

    If they can move to Egypt or tunisia and make a decent living it would be good.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkLordSeth View Post
    Let me guess, the fact that Gaza is a hell hole has nothing to do with Israel.
    Good move, I hope that they use it responsibly.
    They were just Hamas human-shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    If that were so, why did no one leave permanently (Or at the very least, I can't find any reports that say many did) in the 2008 border breach?
    This is an extraordinary statement to make Pignans ... you have no evidence for that so lets forget

    Mubarak Egypt wasn't very friendly to the Palestinians (very funny considering Arabs pretend to care) And made it difficult for Palestinians to have normal lives in Egypt ... maybe it will change
    « Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
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