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    A heads up, this project has not been abandoned, but it will be greatly reduced in scale.

    The New concept is as follows-

    The year is 1300(around there), and two new players are in Europe. The Golden Horde and the Ilkhanate. I plan on doing a min mod adding in these two factions and fixing Europe accordingly.

    Things that will be changed:
    *Spain becomes Castile
    -Only changed in name
    *Sicily becomes Aragon(which owns Sicily)
    -Will need a new unit list, but they will be modified Castilian ones
    *Milan becomes Genoa
    -a few different units would be needed
    *Mongols become Golden Horde and are on the map at start
    -Real faction of focus

    Things that Depend on if we can add factions:
    *Add in Lithuania
    -all new units would be needed, perhaps heavily modified Polish if need be
    *Add in Bohemia
    -many new units needed
    *Add in Ilkhanate-If not possible I will have to use the Tumurid faction as the Ilkhanate.
    -modified Tumurid units
    Updated

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    Right now I am doing the Islamic nations, if anyone has anything they think I need to know about them or to represent them as best as possible (i am only an infidel westerner ) send me a PM. Or join the team!

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    Hello peoples and beloved fans i am the chinese man... if you can offer any help it would be appreciated or you could... JOIN THE TEAM!!





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    YEAH!!!! I will support this mod like it was my own son!!!! I love the Mongol conquests since they would make the perfect Total War era besides Medieval. I wish your mod the best of luck Kscott and I hope that by the time MTW2 is released i'll have had some expearence to join myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the celt
    YEAH!!!! I will support this mod like it was my own son!!!! I love the Mongol conquests since they would make the perfect Total War era besides Medieval. I wish your mod the best of luck Kscott and I hope that by the time MTW2 is released i'll have had some expearence to join myself.

    Hey, if your willing to do research, wed be happy to have you help us out. Also, nobody worry about not knowing how to mod etc, I can teach you!

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    PM Kscott please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscott
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    God, you messed my name up... GRR,

    *Wanders off to edit...
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    I'd love to research since as I a siad this era is awsome, but I dont know where to look. Some recommend readings perhaps?
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    Don't put Tibet in China... It was not part of China during the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the celt
    I'd love to research since as I a siad this era is awsome, but I dont know where to look. Some recommend readings perhaps?
    Well, depends on the factions you want to research.

    With any subject, look on wiki or some other google site. There you get the basics.

    Then you get source material. Hopefully we can find some good free stuff(legal sim*), that the team can use.

    Anyways, seing as your so enthusiatic, Ill count you as a member of the team. We can talk details later. Im sure we can find some way that you can help
    Don't put Tibet in China... It was not part of China during the time.
    Its its OWN faction, its in the chinese cultue group as making a seperate one for Tibet would drain resources.

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    Funny...I was thinking of planning a mod based on the steppe tribes...just set towards the end of the BI period instead :p
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    LOL! I think maybe "Lord Of The Earth:Total War" might be a more dramatic title. But hey thats just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscott
    Map

    Well seing as this has started, ill post the little mod I have been gathering for some time now..

    Anyways, the mod starts around 1204 and will hope to include that entire map;

    Faction List:
    Steppe: 5
    Mongols
    Kara Khitan(Black Khitan)
    Kipchak Khanate
    Volga-Bulgaria
    Kyrgyz

    China: 4
    Jurched(Jin)
    Song
    Nanzhao(Dali)
    Tibet

    Far-Eastern:2
    Koryo(Korea)
    Japan

    Southeast Asia: 3
    Champa
    Kmer Empire
    Pagan

    Islamic Empire: 5
    Kwarezmian Shahdom
    Ghurid Sultanate
    Abbasid Caliphate
    Ayyubid Caliphate
    Rum Seljuks

    India: 2
    Chola Empire(southern India)
    Bengal

    Orthodox: 3
    Republic of Novogorod
    Byzantines
    Kievan Rus

    Catholic: 6
    HRE
    Papacy
    Georgia
    Poland
    Hungary
    Crusader States

    We hope to represent the era accuratly, but aslo have all the other key ingrediants of a mod.

    Team Members:
    Kscott-researcher
    The Vandal-researcher
    Mimirswell-researcher
    brokenfingers-researcher
    therussian-researcher
    Sacred Legion(in dutch)-researcher

    Gaus Draken-text
    Fabolous-PR
    Justinian-........
    Lord Rahl- 2d-artist

    Want to aid the team, just contact us. Research is key right now, we hope to be have the research stage done by MTW 2. Then we can begin on modding.

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    Georgia was orthodox nation and not catolic
    Merged double post, the edit button is your friend./Proximus
    oh, sorry, allready updated. . . .
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    Great mod, but just one question; is this mod gonna use some of M2TW's units, as it is almost the same era, like the europians and middle-easterns can use M2TW's units, or are you gonna make it from scratch??

    Good Luck!

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    Well prolly not MTW's units, but possibly some from other Euro mods(If they are willing).


    Georgia was orthodox nation and not catolic
    We actually had a long debate over this, seing as Western Georgia would have been mainly catholic at the time. However, seing as the majority of the nation, and an increasingly larger majority were Orthodox, we went with that. Rather intresting debate really...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscott
    Well prolly not MTW's units, but possibly some from other Euro mods(If they are willing).



    We actually had a long debate over this, seing as Western Georgia would have been mainly catholic at the time. However, seing as the majority of the nation, and an increasingly larger majority were Orthodox, we went with that. Rather intresting debate really...
    see tjis link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia...ostolic_Church

    Christianity in Ancient and Feudal Georgia
    The Apostle Andrew the First-called went to preach in Georgia with the Holy Mother's Uncreated Icon (an icon of the Virgin Mary that tradition holds was not made by human hands). Affection for the Theotokos runs very deep in Georgian Orthodox consciousness. Georgian Orthodox tradition holds that Georgia is a country alloted to Mary, the mother of Jesus and that she is the main protector and intercessor, thereof. Together with Saint Andrew, the Gospel was preached in Western Georgia by the Holy Apostle Simon the Canaanite who was then buried there near Sokhumi, in the village of Comani. Another Holy Apostle, Saint Matthias, preached in the southwest of Georgia and was buried in Gonio, a village not far from Batumi. Some Christian sources point also to the fact of the Holy Apostles Bartholomew and Thaddeus being in Georgia.

    The Apostle Andrew established the first Georgian Eparchy in Atskuri (South-West Georgia).

    The oldest Georgian church was constructed in the beginning of the 3rd century, in the village Nastakisi (Kartli province of Eastern Georgia).

    Since 303 AD, Equal-to-the-Apostles Saint Nino of Cappadocia (left) preached Christianity in the Georgian kingdom of Iberia (Eastern Georgia). In 317 it was adopted as the state religion by the rulers of Iberia, King (later Saint) Mirian II and Queen (later Saint) Nana. West Georgia, then part of the Roman Empire, became Christianised in a gradual process that was complete by the 6th century. Western Georgian Kingdom of Egrisi declared Christianity as the state religion in 523. The country adopted Saint George as its patron saint.

    Georgian Christianity was heavily influenced by the form practiced in the Byzantine Empire and is considered to be part of the wider tradition represented by the Eastern Orthodox Church. From the 320s, the Georgian Orthodox Church was under the jurisdiction of the Apostolic See of Antioch. The Georgian Orthodox Church become autocephalous (independent) in 466 when the Patriarchate of Antioch elevated the Bishop of Mtskheta to the rank of Catholicos of Kartli. In 1010 the Catholicos of Kartli was elevated to the honor of Patriarch. From then on, the premier hierarch of the Georgian Orthodox Church carried the official title of Catholicos-Patriarch of All Georgia.

    Between the 6th and 9th centuries, Georgia underwent a cultural transformation as monastiscism flourished. Important monasteries were founded at a number of locations, notably the Iveron monastery on Mount Athos in Greece, where many important religious works were translated from Greek into Georgian. Significant works of hagiographic literature were also produced in Georgian, such as the "Life of Saint Nino" and "Martyrdom of the Holy Queen Shushanik".

    Well-known centers of Christian culture included the Georgian Monastery in Sinai, the monastery complex (Iveron) on Mount Athos (the well-known "Wonderworking Iberian Icon of the Mother of God" is located in this Monastery), Georgian churches in the historic province Tao-Klarjeti (part of Turkey since the 16th century), the Georgian Petritsoni Monastery in Bulgaria, Bagrati Cathedral, Gelati Monastery and Academy, Ikalto Monastery complex and Academy, Svetitskhoveli Cathedral, the monastery in Martvili, and the monastic complex at Davidgareja.

    Outstanding Georgian representatives of the Christian culture included Evagrius Ponticus (Evagre Pontoeli. 4th century), Peter the Iberian (Petre Iberieli. 5th century), Euthimius the Athonite (Ekvtime Atoneli. 955-1028), Giorgi the Athonite (Giorgi Atoneli. 1009-1065), Arsen Ikaltoeli (11th century), and Epraim the Lesser (Eprem Mtsire. 11th century).

    The invasions of Genghis Khan in the 13th century and Tamerlane in the 15th century greatly disrupted Georgian Christianity. Between the 15th and 18th centuries both church and state were divided into eastern and western parts, and accordingly the two parts of the Church were ruled by two Catholicos-Patriarchs. In 1801 the Kingdom of Kartl-Kakheti (Eastern Georgia) was occupied and annexed by the Tsarist Russian Empire. In 1811, the autocephalous status of the Georgian Church was abolished by the Russian authorities, despite strong opposition in Georgia, and the Georgian Church was subjected to the synodical rule of the Russian Orthodox Church. The Georgian liturgy was suppressed and replaced with Russian.

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    The Georgian Orthodox Church in modern times
    Following the overthrow of the Tsar Nicholas II in March 1917, Georgia's bishops unilaterally restored the autocephaly of the Georgian Orthodox Church. These changes were not accepted by the Russian Orthodox Church or by the invading Soviets in 1921, who subjected the Georgian Orthodox Church to intense harassment. Hundreds of churches were closed by the government and hundreds of monks were killed during Stalin's purges. The independence of the Georgian Orthodox Church was finally recognised by the Russian Orthodox Church in 1943, but it was still subjected to constant pressure and attrition in the post-war anti-religious campaigns of the Soviet authorities.

    In 1989 the Patriarch of Constantinople recognized and approved the Autocephaly of the Georgian Orthodox Church - which had in practice been exercised since the 5th century - as well as the Patriarchal honor of the Catholicos. Georgia's subsequent independence in 1991 saw a major revival in the fortunes of the Georgian Orthodox Church.

    A special role of the Georgian Orthodox Church in the history of country is recognized according to Article 9 of the Constitution of Georgia and Constitutional Agreement between State and Church.

    About 80% of Georgia's population identified themselves as Georgian Orthodox in 2002 (The remainder being Muslim, Russian Orthodox, Armenian Apostolic, Catholic and Other). In 2002 it was reported that there were 35 dioceses and 512 churches within the Georgian Orthodox Church, served by 730 priests. Georgian Orthodox Church has 5 million members around the world ( about 3.670.000 live within Georgia).

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    Catholicos-Patriarchs of Georgia, 1917 to present
    The Georgian Orthodox Church is managed by the Holy Synod. The Holy Synod is headed by the Catholicos-Patriarch of All Georgia, the first of whom was Melkisedek I (1010-1033]]). Since 1977 his Holiness and Beatitude Ilia II (born in 1932) has served as the Catholicos-Patriarch of All Georgia and Archibishop of Mtskheta and Tbilisi.

    Kirion II — (1917-1918)
    Leonide — (1918-1921)
    Ambrosi — (1921-1927)
    Christefore III — (1927-1932)
    Kalistrate — (1932-1952)
    Melkisedek III — (1952-1960)
    Eprem II — (1960-1972)
    David V — (1972-1977)
    Ilia II — (1977 to present)

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    The problem is in malayasia. Notice I made it just far enough south so a ship could travel through there and go all the way around. If we dont leave that we may have some problems.

    Altough Id like to cut it at southern India, I dont know if its practical..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscott
    The problem is in malayasia. Notice I made it just far enough south so a ship could travel through there and go all the way around. If we dont leave that we may have some problems.

    Altough Id like to cut it at southern India, I dont know if its practical..
    Hrmm, people should be able to go around malayasia... I guess we have to leave it that far south.
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    Also the fact that the Srijava have been chosen as the final faction:

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    Hmm....that much of Africa could proove a problem. Hopfully CA are ture to there word and increase the faction slot by 10 so we can add some Zulu or some-such poeple down there.(Mongols VS Zulu?)
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