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    Specifically Chistianity and Islam, if we had FTL capability and could and visit other populated worlds (and assuming we had universal translators and such) would Christian/Muslim missionaries be sent to these planets? Or is it more the case that they wouldn't be accepted even if they wanted to convert?

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    scientology all the way man

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    They would already be Scientologists if Scientology were true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    Specifically Chistianity and Islam, if we had FTL capability and could and visit other populated worlds (and assuming we had universal translators and such) would Christian/Muslim missionaries be sent to these planets? Or is it more the case that they wouldn't be accepted even if they wanted to convert?

    No, because they are most likely too smart to believe in fairy tales. So they would just shun missonaries.
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    There's no guarantee they would even have a concept of a 'god'.
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    If they're anything like us they would be interested in stuff as well, and political motivations. So we can assume they will have their own religions, see the Covenant from Halo.

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    There's no guarantee they would even have a concept of a 'god'.
    Not all humans have just a concept, and montheism was a fairly recent invention.
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    Christianity (Catholicism) has already stated that everyone can be saved by Jesus even extraterrestrial men. You don't need to be human to be a Catholic, just gullible.

    However the proliferation of intelligent life was one of the central reasons that drove the founding fathers to believe Christianity to be laughable mythology and live as Deists. The founders were very convinced that aliens existed and that they were far more likely to see Venusians than the second coming. It just didn't make sense that every planet would have it's own Jesus and Prophets and all that. They figured God created, then after resting on the seventh day continued to chill and amuse himself with other projects such as model ships and starting a band.

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    If Christianity is true then God would have to make sure he spreads the divine truth to every planet with alien Jesus's. Though perhaps there are in fact alien versions of Jesus, there could be some universal appeal to certain themes of self ssacrifice and redemption from sin, resurrections from the dead, eternal life so on. I suppose the clever thing for Christianity to do is just say those similar kinds of religion are in fact the same religion, so there's no need need to convert them to our version.

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    So what if aliens dont exist?What if they are the modern equivalent of medieval sprites?

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    So what if aliens dont exist?What if they are the modern equivalent of medieval sprites?
    There's no good reason why they shouldn't exist, and it would be a very big empty universe if we're the only ones in it. There's already quite a lot of wasted empty space with nothing in it as it is.
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    Christians also had faith on the ressurection of Jesus."Faith" alone doesnt mean he really got ressurected.In the same way faith alone doesnt mean that we are a natural phenomenon.Just because science wants to believe this doesnt mean it happened that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papay View Post
    Christians also had faith on the ressurection of Jesus."Faith" alone doesnt mean he really got ressurected.In the same way faith alone doesnt mean that we are a natural phenomenon.Just because science wants to believe this doesnt mean it happened that way
    Then yes, Papay it seems in this vast unvierse of thousandsof galaxies, of billions of solar systems, and trillions of planets, we are the only life that exist. There is no way any other intellegent life could possibly exist.
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    Then yes, Papay it seems in this vast unvierse of thousands of galaxies, of millions of solar systems, and trillions of planets, we are the only life that exist.
    Until we find another entirely independent formation of life it is technically possible that Earth is the only planet to support life in the entire universe. But that would be very seriously weird and mean there's something exceptionally different about Earth.
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    Then yes, Papay it seems in this vast unvierse of thousands of galaxies, of millions of solar systems, and trillions of planets, we are the only life that exist.
    I am quite sure that no computers exist outside this planet.Despite the trillions of planets.They are a unique human invention.You wont find them even if you search all the universe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papay View Post
    I am quite sure that no computers exist outside this planet.Despite the trillions of planets.They are a unique human invention.You wont find them even if you search all the universe
    Cool, but i bet you could find intelligent life some where in the universe if you searched.

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    I am quite sure that no computers exist outside this planet.Despite the trillions of planets.They are a unique human invention.You wont find them even if you search all the universe
    Well no not really since a computer isn't exactly a unique concept in terms of purpose. That is to process and hold data. Other intelligent life will most definitely have their own computers but most likely in a different form to ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneckie View Post
    Well no not really since a computer isn't exactly a unique concept in terms of purpose. That is to process and hold data. Other intelligent life will most definitely have their own computers but most likely in a different form to ours.
    Yeah but to make a computer you need hands, you need vision, you need brain.What are the chances of these traits evolving again?

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    The human brain is a naturally evolved biological computer, so we just replicated something that already existed in some form it isn't unique to us. Aliens will have computers as well, if Independence Day is anything to go back they can be hacked into using a 1990s Macintosh.
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    How the hell is a one eye degenerate old salt going to fly an interstellar starship?

    Papay will never find the aliens unless they come to him and beat him over the head before he can strangle them with his misshapen hamfists.
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    what if alien missionaries started coming to earth and demanding their rights and religions be respected and tolerated and they had gunships to back them up like 19th century colonialism?

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