SS 6.4 CTD on turn taking

**tomaka121** · April 24, 2011, 02:34 AM

Hi, guys. I'm having CTD on turn taking with error message 'M2:TW encountered an unspecified...'. I noticed that it crashes when it gets to France. I turned 'follow ai moves' but still i can't find anything that could cause crash (i checked with toggle_fow). Also when i use console command 'disable_ai' or 'disable_ai tac' i can take turn and no ctd happens. But when i save the game, exit and then try to take the turn it crashes again.
My log:

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Not much info there.

I play:
Venice
late era campaign
RR enabled
Savage AI
Longer assimilation
Permanent watchtowers

Thanks in advance

**bɑne** · April 24, 2011, 11:17 AM

Kill the french faction with "surrender_regions france" and try to end the turn again and report back. Either this confirms that it is france or whether it is a faction after it that is responsible for the crash.

**tomaka121** · April 24, 2011, 11:59 AM

Yep, it works fine after removing France. So it's confirmed... Any suggestions on how to solve this and leave them?

I also modified default.cfg as it was mentioned somewhere (from error to trace), so the end of my log is:

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**tomaka121** · April 27, 2011, 09:41 AM

Hmmm, another thing i noticed: after removing France and saving, the savegame gets corrupted giving the same error message: 'M2:TW encountered an unspecified...'. And here's the end of my log:

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16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 998: caching directory: mods/ss6.3/saves
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4151: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/1.sav (1303576945)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4152: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/2.sav (1303490644)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4153: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/3.sav (1303491096)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4154: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/4.sav (1303490441)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4155: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/5.sav (1303492686)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4156: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/6.sav (1303492891)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4157: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/atak.sav (1303483941)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4158: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/autosave.sav (1303914239)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4159: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/autosave.zip (1303585241)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4160: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/quicksave.sav (1303581824)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4161: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/szturm.sav (1303483812)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4162: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/test.sav (1303582055)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4163: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/test2.sav (1303664061)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4164: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/test3.sav (1303665234)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [trace] exists: 4165: caching file: mods/ss6.3/saves/tura.sav (1303490606)
16:27:53.296 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/SS6.3/saves/test4.sav
16:27:53.609 [system.io] [trace] file open,,275AE4E0,4940173
16:27:53.609 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/SS6.3/saves/test4.sav (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
16:27:57.453 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/minor_win.bik]Pause on
16:27:57.453 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/minor_win.bik]Pause on
16:27:57.609 [system.io] [trace] file open,,2A55F040,,not found
16:27:57.609 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/localized.pack,data/fonts/font_14.cuf,328227

**bɑne** · April 27, 2011, 11:39 AM

Any settlements they are besieging? Any possible fights? Prevent / intervene in all of them (use auto_win attacker and character_reset to make this quicker). You can even up the havoc later by gifting the settlements to the likely victor or letting them revolt.

**tomaka121** · April 28, 2011, 11:18 AM

Dammmmmmm, I'm good. I found the problem, but don't know how to solve it. It's caused by French King, when i attacked and killed him the turn went fine. The thing now is how to remove him. I can't even move him around cause his name is Andre (with some accent over e) and it always says 'the character doesn't exist'...

**bɑne** · April 28, 2011, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by tomaka121

Dammmmmmm, I'm good. I found the problem, but don't know how to solve it. It's caused by French King, when i attacked and killed him the turn went fine. The thing now is how to remove him. I can't even move him around cause his name is Andre (with some accent over e) and it always says 'the character doesn't exist'...

Kill him. Cheat money, use it to make peace, cheat the money away from france after that if you want. Got any assassins?

**tomaka121** · April 29, 2011, 10:30 AM

OK, this is getting ridiculous. First, i waited (with disable_ai) until French king died, everything was fine (after saving exiting and reloading no ctd after turn)... So i attacked and killed him on earlier save (i assassinated him but after that ctd happens again!). The turn goes fine (i'm still at war with France). After the turn I ask for 'cease hostilities', they agree. But when I take the turn after that, the ctd happens again!!! It turns out I HAVE TO DECLARE WAR ON FRANCE to take the turn again... What the hell is this?

here' the comparison of the parts of logs:
when ctd happens:

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and with no ctd (when i'm at war with france):

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The <0068_T_Battle_Engagement> could be when they attack my forces (don't know if that would be here).

UPDATE: I ceased war with France and took one turn with 'disable_ai', then enabled ai and it went fine (no ctd on the NEXT turn) but now after couple of turns (when i get a message of new era - new mercaneries - or smth like that) all savegames get corrupted, autosave and one of my saves!!

I'm gonna use one of my old savegames (7 or so turns before the problems with France even began) and try to move on, but if this happens again I'm going back either to SS 6.3 or even 6.2 (in which i have never had such problems)...