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    Default Seleucid satrapies

    Here are the satrapies and their descriptions (like I did with the Roman Provinces).
    Note that there are some satrapies which have a city underlined and some that don't, in which case it doesn't matter where the character should be in order to acquire the trait of satrap or strategos (or archon in some cases).

    I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK ANYONE WITH KNOWLEDGE OF GREEK LANGUAGE TO MAKE CORRECTIONS TO THE SATRAP'S TITLES IF NEEDED.

    SATRAPEIA MEDIAS


    • Satrapes tes Medias
    • After the death of Alexander, Media was divided into two parts: Media Magna (the land around Ecbatana and Rhagae) and Media Atropatene (Gazaca). Media was surrounded everywhere by Greek towns, in pursuance of Alexander's plan to protect it from neighboring barbarians, according to Polybius. Only Ecbatana retained its old character. But Rhagae became the Greek town Europus; and with it Strabo names Laodicea, Apamea Heraclea or Achais. Most of them were founded by Seleucus I and his son Antiochus I. Recently Media (along with Persia) under Molon and his brother Alexander, both satraps, rebelled against Antiochus III. After a year and quite some trouble, Antiochus managed to defeat the rebels and retake Media and Persia. He has now chosen a loyal man to become the satrap of this region, in order to avoid such troubles in future, but also to ensure this man will stay and defend the region against the impending Parthian threat.
    • Requires:
      • Ecbatana, Rhagae, Apamea (in the course of a Parthian invasion, even Ecbatana should be enough)
      • Character with at least 2 Influence and 1 Managment

    • Gives: +2 Influence, +1 Law, +2 Trade, Bribe resistance +30%, -5% on recruitment costs



    SATRAPEIA BABYLONIAS


    • Satrapes tes Babylonias
    • Babylonia was the seat of power after Alexander's conquest of the Persian empire and continued to be during the Seleucid era. In 320 BC, Seleucus was named satrap of Babylon, but had to flee from Antigonus in 315. With the help of Ptolemy he was able to return in 312 BC. This date officialy marked the beginning of the Seleucid Empire and the first year of the Seleucid era. Babylon was one of the wealthiest provinces of the empire, but its military power was insignificant. It is told that Chaldean astrologers prophesied to Antigonus that Seleucus would become master of Asia and would kill Antigonus. That came true in 301 BC, at the battle of Ipsus. Babylon was soon left in the shadow of Seleucia (founded in 307 or 305), and the story goes that Antiochus, the son of Seleucus, moved the whole population of Babylon to his father's namesake capital in 275 BC. Seleucia was the capital of the Empire until 240BC, when Antiocheia was chosen as the new seat of government. The satrapy of Babylonia is still one of the most important in the empire and the man to govern it gains much influence. It is rich with crops and trade from lands such as India and Arabia.
    • Requires:
      • Seleucia, Babylon, Opis
      • Character with at least 2 Managment and 3 Influence

    • Gives: +3 Influence, +2 Farming, +2 Trade, +3 Law, -5 on recruitment costs



    SATRAPEIA PERSIDOS


    • Satrapes tes Persidos
    • Persia was the home of many Persian kings. It is from here that Cyrus began the conquest which resulted in formation of the Achaemenid Empire. The Persians ruled this area until the campaign of Alexander the Great (or Iskander as they call him here). Seleucus then established his rule over Persia (and all the eastern domains) around 305 BC, which made it a region under the Seleucid rule until the late 3rd century BC, when Parthians invaded and conquered it. Recently a rebellion led by brothers Molon and Alexander was put down by Antiochus III, and while the Persian nationalism is still strong, the king's strength is enough to quell any attempts of another rebellion.
    • Requires:
      • Persepolis, Istakhr
      • Character with at least 2 Influence and 1 Managment

    • Gives: +2 Influence, +1 Law, +1 Unrest, -40% Bribe resistance, -5% recruitment



    SATRAPEIA SOUSIANAS


    • Satrapes tes Sousianas
    • Susa was the capital of the Persian Empire, along with Persepolis, Pasargadae and Ecbatana. When Alexander conquered it, however her role greatly diminished. Under the Seleucid rule, it was renamed into Seleukeia. The port at Charax is the gateway upon which traders from India flock into the city. Susa eventually became one of the two capitals of the Parthian Empire (the other being Ctesiphon), but history doesn't need to repeat itself. Under your rule, the people are content and your armies still defend the Empire. No reason why the city should worry ... just don't plunder it's temples!
    • Requires:
      • Susa, Charax
      • Character with at least 2 Managment and Influence

    • Gives: +2 Influence, +2 Law, +2 Trade, -5% recruitment



    EPARCHEIA SYRIAS


    • Strategos tes Syrias
    • Syria came under the Seleucid rule following the defeat of Antigonus at Ipsus in 301 BC. Seleucus initialy thought its territories would include all the area from Taurus to Sinai, but Ptolemy I, already captured Iudaea and Palestine – thus the endless conflict between the Ptolemies and the Seleucids begun. It was here in Syria that Seleucus established a number of cities (Seleucia, Antiocheia and Laodikeia to name a few) in order to invite Greek settlers into his Empire. The plan worked and in a few decades, Antiocheia became the capital of the Empire, numbering up to 400,000 people at one time. This, along with Babylonia is the key region of your Empire and to lose it would mean a huge blow to your economy and military resources. In Antiocheia you have one of the biggest centres of trade and learning in the known world and its population is only matched by those of Rome, Alexandria, Seleucia and Carthage.
    • Requires:
      • Antiocheia, Damaskos, Laodikeia, Hieropolis, Tarsos
      • Character with at least 4 Influence and 2 Managment

    • Gives: +3 Influence, +2 Management, +3 Law, +2 farming, +30% Bribe resistance, -5% recruitment



    BONUS REGIONS:

    SATRAPEIA PARTHYAIAS


    • Satrapes tes Parthyaias
    • Parthia has been recaptured for the Seleucid Empire once again. After years of the nomadic Parthian rule over these lands, your armies have been succesfull in bringing them back under yours. You must not let mismanagment and poor defense give the Parthians another chance of conquest. You must elect an able man as satrap to govern and defend this region against Parthian invasions.
    • Requires:
      • Hecatompylos, Zadracarta
      • Character with at least: 2 Command

    • Gives: Influence +2, Law +1, Command vs Easterners +1, -5% recruitment



    SATRAPEIA ARMENIAS


    • Satrapes tes Armenias
    • Armenian lords have been brought to their knees and they now acknowledge you as their overlord. If you can keep these lands under your rule, the title of Megas Basileus will be rightfully yours. A governor of big influence should be left in charge to administer these lands in your absence, else the lords might start an uprising.
    • Requires:
      • Arsamosata, Van, Karkathiokerta
      • Character with at least 3 Influence

    • Gives: +2 Influence, +2 Law, +2 Trade, -5% recruitment



    AIGYPTOS


    • Archon tes Aigyptou
    • Egypt has finally been conquered! The Ptolemies trouble you no more. The lands of Egypt rival those of Babylonia in their riches and your Empire will benefit enormously from farming and trade. In Alexandria you have the biggest port in the eastern Mediterranean and the biggest learning centre in the world. You should appoint a loyal man to govern it, else the priesthood might corrupt him into assuming the vacant throne of the pharaohs.
    • Requires:
      • Alexandreia, Tanis, Memphis, Thebes
      • Character with at least 2 Influence and 2 Management, or >= Personality_Loyal 2 trait

    • Gives: +3 Influence, +2 Management, +2 Trade, +1 Law, -40% Bribe resistance, -5% recruitment



    MIKRA ASIA


    • Strategos tes Mikra Asia
    • The rebellion of Achaeus from Antiochus III has finally been put down. Not only that, but you also recaptured Ionia, Lycia and Pamphylia from your enemies. The entire land from Aegean to Syria is again under the Seleucid rule. From your ports in Ionia you will be able to pose a threat to mainland Greece and should you decide, even launch an invasion as Seleucus Nikator and Antiochus Megas have done. But you should be careful to appoint a loyal and able governor this time. You don't want to face another rebellion in the area.
    • Requires:
      • Sardeis, Apameia, Side, Patara, Halikarnassos, Ephesos
      • Character with at least 2 Command and >= Personality_Loyal 1

    • Gives: +3 Influence, +2 Law, -40% Bribe resistance, -5% recruitment



    MAKEDONIA


    • Archon tes Makedonias
    • Macedon – the homeland of Seleucus and Alexander has been brought into your Empire. The people are proud and able men, which is a double-edged sword. You should be careful in appointing a capable, but loyal man to govern this land, else he might be persuaded into becoming the next king of Macedon.
    • Requires:
      • Pella, Thessalonike, Phillipi, Edessa, Pharsalus
      • Character with at least 3 Influence, 2 Managment and Command and >= Personality_Loyal 1

    • Gives: +4 Influence, +2 Law, -40% Bribe resistance, -5% recruitment



    BONUS ANCILLARY:

    For Seleucids only

    Megas Basileus (Great King/King of Kings)

    • This man has become the King of Kings, a title bestowed only upon the greatest Seleucid rulers. Through his achievements (or those of his generals), he now controls huge influence over his dominions (especially those in the East), though his glory hasn't gone unnoticed by his enemies. Only the greatest or bravest of them will try to face him on the battlefield.
    • Requires:
      • either 40 provinces
      • or 5 heroic victories
      • or 10 cities taken
      • or Nisa, Hecatompylos, Asaak and Zadracarta taken
      • or Arsamosata, Van, Karkathiokerta, Gazaca and Armavir taken
      • or Armenia destroyed
      • or Parthia destroyed

    • Gives: +2 Command , +5 Influence, +3 Law, +3 Morale
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    Default Re: Seleucid satrapies

    Wow, that's great. And BTW, the Governor has to be in 'a' particular city for the trait trigger to work. So I'd have to chose one, or you can.

    I'll investigate the ancillary possibilities, but I think a character has to 'personally' destroy a faction in order to gain a specific trait.

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    Default Re: Seleucid satrapies

    The first city in each satrapy then

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    OK.

    Another thing that troubles me.....the Parthians were known to have used the satrapies as well, and I would like to make them for both factions. Would Greek names be the way to go? Or do we need duplicate traits with different names?

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    I know the Parthian (actually Persian) word for satrap is xšatrap or sth like that... I will try to find some info on that and maybe do sth similar for them.

    Now that I think of it... I could try and find some things so we could make Parthia into New Persian empire (like I've mentioned a couple of times). On that topic - can it be done so the settlement names change after a faction conquers them? Like lets say - Parthia conquers Seleucia and it is renamed into Ctesiphon? Also, can the name of the faction change during an existing campaign, due to a certain event? Like: Parthia conquers Babylonia and Persia and has more than 25 regions, so the faction now becomes the Persian Empire.

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    Hi Rex

    Not sure if renaming Seleucia would be 100% correct historically as the city was still called Seleucia even in AD 117 when Trajan burnt it down and then completly destroyed in AD 165. From all accounts Ctesiphon was a seperate city very close to Seleucia .. according to wikipedia:

    Ctesiphon rose to prominence during the Parthian Empire in the 1st century BC, and was the seat of government for most of its rulers. The city was located near Seleucia, the Hellenistic capital. Strabo abundantly describes its foundation:

    "In ancient times Babylon was the metropolis of Assyria; but now Seleuceia is the metropolis, I mean the Seleuceia on the Tigris, as it is called. Near by is situated a village called Ctesiphon, a large village. This village the kings of the Parthians were wont to make their winter residence, thus sparing the Seleuceians, in order that the Seleuceians might not be oppressed by having the Scythian folk or soldiery quartered amongst them. Because of the Parthian power, therefore, Ctesiphon is a city rather than a village; its size is such that it lodges a great number of people, and it ..."

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    I know it's not the same city... I think it's just on the other side of the Tigris from Seleucia. The thing is that Ctesiphon became the capital of the Parthians, not Seleucia, so I thought why not change the name to reflect that.

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    There is a way to change settlement names in RTW, but it's a manual operation.

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    I know... I meant via script or sth, that would change it automatically once a particular faction took it.

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    Can't be done.

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    very nice descriptions Rex!

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    On second thought, Rex Basiliscus, I think what can be done is to change the Republic Provincial traits to ancillaries, and just make them the same as Imperial where the only difference is 'Senatorial'. Then there would be no removal issue.

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    What about those provinces that don't stay the same? Like Gallia Comata is divided into three Gallic provinces... Or Gallia Cisalpina ceases to exist in Imperial era.
    If by "the same" you mean descriptions, or bonuses... I really like the idea of different bonuses for the same province in different eras. I mean some offices held greater importance then they had in republican times and vice-versa. I'm not sure what exactly you meant by "the same"

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    Drat....you are, of course, correct. Didn't think of that. Can't do it.

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    Rex, what I've decided to do is leave the Republican Provincial titles as traits (so they can ultimately be removed), and am converting the Imperial ones to ancillaries. That should make you happy.

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    Well it's better than all being traits It makes me very happy

    Do you have to have a character who is a senator to be able to get the trait though? I had a character in Emporiae, controled all the regions for Hispania Citerior, but didn't get the trait...

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    I should also mention that I have taken the names of the satrapies of Persia, Parthia, Sousiana, Media (Satrapeia ...) and the title of strategos of Mikra Asia, the titles (archon) of governors of Egypt and Macedonia from the EB mod.
    I'm not completely sure if this would be "stealing", since I only took the greek names and titles from EB and made my own descriptions and new bonuses. I would say I used them for inspiration, since I added a couple of satrapies.

    The reason I took them in the first place is because there really isn't many other ways (AFAIK) to name the regions. The "satrapes tes Medias" is my attempt of naming the governors in Greek... I kept "Archon tes Aegyptos/Macedonia etc", because they seem reasonable to me, since they mean "ruler of ...". I don't think the Seleucids would allow another king (even a viceroy which they appointed) as a ruler of these lands.

    If there is a problem with this, we can always use English titles...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Basiliscus View Post
    Well it's better than all being traits It makes me very happy

    Do you have to have a character who is a senator to be able to get the trait though? I had a character in Emporiae, controled all the regions for Hispania Citerior, but didn't get the trait...
    Well, the character must have the 'City_Has_Governor' trait....and of course, end turn in the settlement. There are no other conditions ATT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Basiliscus View Post
    I should also mention that I have taken the names of the satrapies of Persia, Parthia, Sousiana, Media (Satrapeia ...) and the title of strategos of Mikra Asia, the titles (archon) of governors of Egypt and Macedonia from the EB mod.
    I'm not completely sure if this would be "stealing", since I only took the greek names and titles from EB and made my own descriptions and new bonuses. I would say I used them for inspiration, since I added a couple of satrapies.

    The reason I took them in the first place is because there really isn't many other ways (AFAIK) to name the regions. The "satrapes tes Medias" is my attempt of naming the governors in Greek... I kept "Archon tes Aegyptos/Macedonia etc", because they seem reasonable to me, since they mean "ruler of ...". I don't think the Seleucids would allow another king (even a viceroy which they appointed) as a ruler of these lands.

    If there is a problem with this, we can always use English titles...
    I don't think there should be any problems with a name or title. I've seen them elsewhere, and I'm pretty sure that's in the public domain. The descriptions, however, as you say, would be a different matter.
    From what I gathered in my own research, various Greek states used the same titles 'differently', and even had different titles for the same functions. Very confusing.

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    I'm not sure he got the "City has governor" trait either...

    It seems all the states and kingdoms wanted to be special where there was nothing special Alot of words for not much good

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    Just noticed a small mistake in Satrapes tes Sousianas - the last line should read "don't plunder its temples". The apostrophe in "it's" there is wrong. Other than that, these look awesome!
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