True Finns get 19% in Finnish elections

[Deutschland]

I dont know if this was mentioned before:

A right wing party called True Finns has gotten 19 percent of zhe votes in recent finnish elections. The party is anti-EU and against muslim immigration. Its leader is pretty much the Geert Wilders of eastern europe. He will now be in a position to block important decisions concerning EU matters. E. g. he will be maybe be able to make Finnland vote "no" on the ESM (european stabilization mechanism) which is to support weak EU members. Since every member state needs to vote yes in order that the ESM is installed this will maybe be a major obstacle on the recovery process for europe's bankrupt states. What do you think?
It is also interesting that mostly young male Finns voted for the True Finns party. How does that fit?

[Thorn777]

"Angry Young Men" tend to be a bit radical in their early days, and while the pacifist-hippy look is not cool no more, they do the other Mavericky thing.

[MathiasOfAthens]

just go back to Central Asia with your Hungarian cousins.

[Odovacar]

just go back to Central Asia with your Hungarian cousins.

At that day in which you acquire common sense.

[motiv-8]

This is exhilarating. I think in the next elections here I shall vote for the True Scotsman party. We must preserve our specious notions of identity and commonality at all costs.

[MathiasOfAthens]

This is exhilarating. I think in the next elections here I shall vote for the True Scotsman party. We must preserve our specious notions of identity and commonality at all costs.

Go back to ireland.

[Menelik_I]

This is exhilarating. I think in the next elections here I shall vote for the True Scotsman party. We must preserve our specious notions of identity and commonality at all costs.

That won't be necessary ... It is quite rare to see immigrants identifying as Scots

Good for them, I hope they get their anti-EU platform to fruition ... Who is ready for Nigel Farage and UKIP shafting the Libdems in the next election

[Their Law]

That won't be necessary ... It is quite rare to see immigrants identifying as Scots

Good for them, I hope they get their anti-EU platform to fruition ... Who is ready for Nigel Farage and UKIP shafting the Libdems in the next election

Scots are immigrants... from Ireland.

[neoptolemos]

Scots are immigrants... from Ireland.

The Gaels you mean right?
When they were migrating they were not Scots

Back on topic, this a "political trend" in Europe who so hypocritically is trying to unite....

[removeduser_487563287433]

The Gaels you mean right?
When they were migrating they were not Scots

Back on topic, this a "political trend" in Europe who so hypocritically is trying to unite....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoti

Same thing, Neo.

[justicar5]

This is exhilarating. I think in the next elections here I shall vote for the True Scotsman party. We must preserve our specious notions of identity and commonality at all costs.

tbf knowing some Finns (online ofc) they are damn proud of their country and rightly so, beating both Stalin and Hitler? While having a population smaller than some cities? Hardcore. Also mildly cautious about getting swallowed up , lovely guys, bit more patriotic than the europe wide average (in my experience) and have a strange realtionship with the neighbouring countries.

Something that is often forgotten by the fanatical globalist peace and love pinkos on this site. It's all about floral decorations, releasing doves and hugging trees, until they come across someone they don't agree with. Then we hear nothing but buzz-word insults and calls for censure in various forms.

Dickheads.

./disagree erm I support AV in the Uk, precisly because it will break the Neo-Liberal consensus that all three main parties have, then it's every man for himself and (hopefully) a parliament that more acuratly reflects the votes cast (still think the BNP are facist s mind, and that UKIP Are elitist scum set on keeping their nests feathers by screwing over as many people as possible) doesn't mean that voting for them should be a wasted vote (an idiotic vote yes, wasted: no)

[Ahlerich]

tbf knowing some Finns (online ofc) they are damn proud of their country and rightly so, beating both Stalin and Hitler? While having a population smaller than some cities?

can you explain when and how the finns beat hitler?

[justicar5]

can you explain when and how the finns beat hitler?

The Lapland War. 1944-45

[Ahlerich]

The Lapland War. 1944-45

ah never heard of it, just read up. oh well come on now september 44 it started, there was nothing left of tgermany then the hitler youth and volkssturm and maybe a volkswagen with a mounted mg

[Denny Crane!]

tbf knowing some Finns (online ofc) they are damn proud of their country and rightly so, beating both Stalin and Hitler? While having a population smaller than some cities? Hardcore. Also mildly cautious about getting swallowed up , lovely guys, bit more patriotic than the europe wide average (in my experience) and have a strange realtionship with the neighbouring countries.



./disagree erm I support AV in the Uk, precisly because it will break the Neo-Liberal consensus that all three main parties have, then it's every man for himself and (hopefully) a parliament that more acuratly reflects the votes cast (still think the BNP are facist s mind, and that UKIP Are elitist scum set on keeping their nests feathers by screwing over as many people as possible) doesn't mean that voting for them should be a wasted vote (an idiotic vote yes, wasted: no)

I just took your criticism of UKIP and pasted it onto both Labour and the Tories and it worked for me.

[Menelik_I]

./disagree erm I support AV in the Uk, precisly because it will break the Neo-Liberal consensus that all three main parties have

What has this to do with What Boofhead said

Plus what is this ''Phantom Neo-Liberal consensus'' people brandy around ? This is one of the biggest boggy man in human history.

The only Consensus that seems to exist between Labour-Dem-1/2 Tories seems to be a EU-federation consensus.

[justicar5]

What has this to do with What Boofhead said

Plus what is this ''Phantom Neo-Liberal consensus'' people brandy around ? This is one of the biggest boggy man in human history.

The only Consensus that seems to exist between Labour-Dem-1/2 Tories seems to be a EU-federation consensus.

He was bashing leftists for being anti-democratic. I am a socialist so answered.


and to your point:

The term "neoliberalism" has also come into wide use in cultural studies to describe an internationally prevailing ideological paradigm that leads to social, cultural, and political practices and policies that use the language of markets, efficiency, consumer choice, transactional thinking and individual autonomy to shift risk from governments and corporations onto individuals and to extend this kind of market logic into the realm of social and affective relationships

since every party privatises parts of goverment (the only difference is what and how much) I'd call it a consensus (yea privatising the cleaners for the NHS worked so well...oh wai.. and now they want a 'market driven' system for NHS funding bet that works just as well.)

[Menelik_I]

He was bashing leftists for being anti-democratic. I am a socialist so answered.

he has a point then, Socialist-EU buff view of Moderation is to unconditionally agree with them.

The term "neoliberalism" has also come into wide use in cultural studies to describe an internationally prevailing ideological paradigm that leads to social, cultural, and political practices and policies that use the language of markets, efficiency, consumer choice, transactional thinking and individual autonomy to shift risk from governments and corporations onto individuals and to extend this kind of market logic into the realm of social and affective relationships

Makes an interesting Linguistic pop culture definition but completely meaningless in terms of policy.

With the Tea Party and UKIP, which are the closest think resembling classical liberalism, being seen has mindless racist kooks you are trying to tell me we are in a Neo-classical Golden age

since every party privatises parts of goverment (the only difference is what and how much) I'd call it a consensus (yea privatising the cleaners for the NHS worked so well...oh wai.. and now they want a 'market driven' system for NHS funding bet that works just as well.)

After the Linch mob against Daniel Hannan, I'm pretty sure the NHS is the UK consensus.

[Azog 150]

./disagree erm I support AV in the Uk, precisly because it will break the Neo-Liberal consensus that all three main parties have, then it's every man for himself and (hopefully) a parliament that more acuratly reflects the votes cast (still think the BNP are facist s mind, and that UKIP Are elitist scum set on keeping their nests feathers by screwing over as many people as possible) doesn't mean that voting for them should be a wasted vote (an idiotic vote yes, wasted: no)

I wouldn't expect AV to change that much. However, fingers crossed that if the 'Yes' vote passes one day we might get a proper PR system. Then again, if its 'No' then we can just give up on ever getting a chance at electoral reform for the next 50-60 years at least, and we get to spend that time watching Labour and Conservative finish running this country into the ground.

[justicar5]

I wouldn't expect AV to change that much. However, fingers crossed that is the 'Yes' vote passes one day we might get a proper PR system. Then again, if its 'No' then we can just give up on ever getting a chance at electoral reform for the next 50-60 years at least, and we get to spend that time watching Labour and Conservative finish running this country into the ground.

yup, if it's a no, back to pass the parcel politics as usual