Death of Indian Cold Start Doctrine

[Poet]

SUMMARY OF INDIA’S COLD START DOCTRINE:

India’s Strategic Military Objectives Needs to be Made Clear: India’s strategic military objectives need to:

• Shift from capturing bits of Pakistan territory in small scale multiple offensives to be used as bargaining chips after the cease fire.
• Focus on the destruction of the Pakistani Army and its military machine without much collateral damage to Pakistani civilians.
• All the three armed forces have to synergise operations towards destruction of the Pakistan Army as it is that which enslaves Pakistan, impedes democracy in Pakistan and indulges in military adventurism against India, including proxy wars and terrorism.
• “India’s Defence Policies and Strategic Thought: A Comparative Analysis (reviewed on SAAG website as Igniting Strategic Mindsets in Indians:; SAAG paper no. 657 dated 09-04-2003)

In short Indian cold start doctrine was their plan of sudden and severe attack on defending forces of Pakistan and through this occupying some valuable area of Pakistan so that may help after cease fire during negotiations in favor of India. Pakistan's defense related authorities were worried because of this and they wanted to have something which may prevent Indians from this adventure of limited war;

Pakistan test-fires Hatf-IX

Strategic planners term the test a ‘new and very significant development’ since the missile falls in the category of tactical nuclear weapons. “This is a low-yield battlefield deterrent, capable of deterring and inflicting punishment on mechanised forces like armed brigades and divisions,” said an expert in the field of missile technology. “This takes care of the Indian Army’s obsession with finding space for limited war under the nuclear umbrella.”

It is a good news, though keeping in view the price-hike and poverty no Pakistani would wish to waste money on such "luxuries" but we cannot ignore such threats to our freedom and sovereignty.

[Poach]

I expect India will develop or buy something similar in short order. Your next war will be nuclear, let's just hope it remains tactical.

[Tiberios]

I wonder when the Governments of India and Pakistan get their heads out of their asses and start working on settling this dispute. Neither side needs it as they have terrorist groups operating inside their countries that they should focus on instead. This conflict is just a waste of people, time and money.

[hellheaven1987]

I wonder when the Governments of India and Pakistan get their heads out of their asses and start working on settling this dispute. Neither side needs it as they have terrorist groups operating inside their countries that they should focus on instead. This conflict is just a waste of people, time and money.

Both do have too much people and very eager to depopulate.

[Tiberios]

Both do have too much people and very eager to depopulate.

Ohh, so that's why

[Dr Zoidberg]

I wonder when the Governments of India and Pakistan get their heads out of their asses and start working on settling this dispute. Neither side needs it as they have terrorist groups operating inside their countries that they should focus on instead. This conflict is just a waste of people, time and money.

Agreed. However, as long as the majority on both sides hold the same view as our friend Poet here, we aren't going to see change anytime soon.

[Tiberios]

Agreed. However, as long as the majority on both sides hold the same view as our friend Poet here, we aren't going to see change anytime soon.

Indeed and I don't see that changing anytime soon unfortunately.

[Poet]

Jesus Christ and Muhammad, did Poet really just say EXACTLY to my post?

That was sarcastic.

Indeed and I don't see that changing anytime soon unfortunately.

Exactly

[Adar]

So the Pakistani army has developed a weapon to counter the Indian tactic of "Focus on the destruction of the Pakistani Army and its military machine without much collateral damage to Pakistani civilians" .

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I assume this mean that the Hatf-IX is to be hidden in major population centers and combined with a barrage of Pakistani complaints about Indian army deliberately targeting civilians.

[Babur]

It is a good news, though keeping in view the price-hike and poverty no Pakistani would wish to waste money on such "luxuries" but we cannot ignore such threats to our freedom and sovereignty.

what about the Taliban?

[Dr Zoidberg]

what about the Taliban?

[Babur]

lol

but surely the Taliban is a greater threat to Pakistan's freedom and sovereignty than India?

[Dr Zoidberg]

lol

but surely the Taliban is a greater threat to Pakistan's freedom and sovereignty than India?

For sure. But you won't see Poet or CAQ admitting that anytime soon. Blaming India is so much easier; means you don't have to admit that the true problem is internal...

[Babur]

For sure. But you won't see Poet or CAQ admitting that anytime soon. Blaming India is so much easier; means you don't have to admit that the true problem is internal...

not only in terms of terrorism but also domestically with legislation such as the blasphemy laws and then of course the ineptness of the PPP and the ISI's foolish policies for the past 20 years.

Pakistan has no internal problems, it is a beacon of Utopia that India jealously seeks to destroy.

yes it should be the right of every Pakistani to falsely accuse others of blasphemy

Such is the mentality of the Pakistani military planners, I expect. Otherwise they'd be buying up counter-insurgency kit.

but apparently the idolators over the border are far more evil than the pious Taliban of Pakistan and Afghanistan

[Poach]

Pakistan has no internal problems, it is a beacon of Utopia that India jealously seeks to destroy.

Such is the mentality of the Pakistani military planners, I expect. Otherwise they'd be buying up counter-insurgency kit.

[motiv-8]

Pakistan has no internal problems, it is a beacon of Utopia that India jealously seeks to destroy.

Such is the mentality of the Pakistani military planners, I expect. Otherwise they'd be buying up counter-insurgency kit.

Pakistani COIN doctrine consists of:

-- Ship them across the border to Afghanistan
-- ????
-- FailProfit!

Because, as we all know, once Taliban that were killing and bombing Pakistanis cross that imaginary Durand line into Afghanistan, they're not terrorists anymore, they're freedom fighters against American crusader imperialism.

[Babur]

Pakistani COIN doctrine consists of:

-- Ship them across the border to Afghanistan
-- ????
-- FailProfit!

Because, as we all know, once Taliban that were killing and bombing Pakistanis cross that imaginary Durand line into Afghanistan, they're not terrorists anymore, they're freedom fighters against American crusader imperialism.

not only across to Afghanistan but also to India

yeah the double standards are funny, the Taliban are freedom fighters in Afghanistan but not in Pakistan lol

[Menelik_I]

Pakistan has no internal problems, it is a beacon of Utopia that India jealously seeks to destroy.

We must save Pakistan from the Indian Devils.

Inshalla we have the Taliban Angels to help in that enterprise

[Babur]

We must save Pakistan from the Indian Devils.

Inshalla we have the Taliban Angels to help in that enterprise

Better the Taliban turban than the Hindu bindi

The Pakistan-Iran confrontation is truly worrying given both have nuclear weapon capabilities, couple that with their relatively large and capable armies. Unfortunately, it seems that meaningful dialogue is often hampered by deep cultural and historical mistrust; difficult to overcome.

Well apparently Shia are considered heretics by some Pakistanis which doesn't help.

They seem more keen on identifying with Arabs anyway

cant wait

lol

[Armenum]

The Pakistan-Iran confrontation is truly worrying given both have nuclear weapon capabilities, couple that with their relatively large and capable armies. Unfortunately, it seems that meaningful dialogue is often hampered by deep cultural and historical mistrust; difficult to overcome.