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    How do i build a damn lumber mill?! Its greyed out on my building options.
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    Same problem with me, nobody wants to invest.

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    Event 60070 (become fascist). Then you get to build whatever you want!

    But I don't know how to get capitalists to build that stuff. Maybe a National Focus would work?
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    You need to have wood in the state i think

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    Couldn't you just buy a poop-ton of wood and have your factories buy from your stockpile?

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    nope, that's WAD. this is also the case when you try building a steel factory, it has to be built on an iron producing province.

    edit: if you cant build any factories, it's due to the fact that you have a laisse faire party in power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MehemtAli_Pasha View Post
    nope, that's WAD. this is also the case when you try building a steel factory, it has to be built on an iron producing province.

    edit: if you cant build any factories, it's due to the fact that you have a laisse faire party in power.
    Iron or Coal, for steel factories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MehemtAli_Pasha View Post
    nope, that's WAD. this is also the case when you try building a steel factory, it has to be built on an iron producing province.

    edit: if you cant build any factories, it's due to the fact that you have a laisse faire party in power.
    Nonsense.

    You can build em all even if you don't have dat resource.

    You need 2 have researched right tech 2 build em and have right government.

    You can't build em if you are Liberalism.

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    not sure what's nonesense, but i am perfectly sure that the factories i have mentioned cannot be built on any other province but the ones that produce their raw materials. not sure if certain techs exclude this rule though if that's what you are saying.
    "Egyptians; to the young rebels, and to every one who was killed, bloodied or contributed in the simplest way, what you did has defied any description. you have the world on it's knees gazing at your bravery and determination. you have opened up a new chapter in Egyptian history, one that will be determined by people's love for this country" - an honorable revolutionary,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notorious GSC View Post
    Nonsense.

    You can build em all even if you don't have dat resource.

    You need 2 have researched right tech 2 build em and have right government.

    You can't build em if you are Liberalism.
    You are definitely incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John I Tzimisces View Post
    You are definitely incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notorious GSC View Post
    Nonsense.

    1. You can build em all even if you don't have dat resource.

    2. You need 2 have researched right tech 2 build em and have right government.

    3. You can't build em if you are Liberalism.
    1. False
    2. False in most cases (IE Telephones/Electronic Parts etc...)
    3. You cannot build ()THEM (I'm assuming your poor grammer is trying to apply THEM to factories?) This is true.
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    If this is Vicky 2, you will not be able to build a lumber mill for the following reasons.
    1. THere is no source of wood in the state (state, not province, usually 4 provinces to a state, only one in the state needs wood. Bring up your railway overlay to see where wood is).
    2. You belong to a Laiezze Fair (I cant spell it) government (such as Liberal or Conservative)
    3. You have no money.

    The best government to be in Vicky 2 is Socialist, as it allows you to get the best factories your country needs running straight away.
    If you can manuelly change your government, change it to a party that allows either Interventionism or State Capitalism. If you can not change your party whenever you like, hold a of elections and always choose the options that a closest to the values of the party you desire. After many years, people will believe in that ideology and are more likly to vote for its respective party.

    For example, if I wanted a Socialist party, during elections (which I would hold constantly) I would choose options that increase:
    State Capitalism,
    Full Residency
    Planned Economy
    Anti Military.
    Or whatever my desired Socialist party values. Not all socialist parties have the same ideals though, same with every other country with muliple parties of the same ideology.

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    Or perhaps you've been missing the point of modern warfare? Crush the enemy within a month and then fight an insurgency for the next 10 years..
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    If this is Vicky 2, you will not be able to build a lumber mill for the following reasons.
    1. THere is no source of wood in the state (state, not province, usually 4 provinces to a state, only one in the state needs wood. Bring up your railway overlay to see where wood is).
    2. You belong to a Laiezze Fair (I cant spell it) government (such as Liberal or Conservative)
    3. You have no money.

    The best government to be in Vicky 2 is Socialist, as it allows you to get the best factories your country needs running straight away.
    If you can manuelly change your government, change it to a party that allows either Interventionism or State Capitalism. If you can not change your party whenever you like, hold a of elections and always choose the options that a closest to the values of the party you desire. After many years, people will believe in that ideology and are more likly to vote for its respective party.

    For example, if I wanted a Socialist party, during elections (which I would hold constantly) I would choose options that increase:
    State Capitalism,
    Full Residency
    Planned Economy
    Anti Military.
    Or whatever my desired Socialist party values. Not all socialist parties have the same ideals though, same with every other country with muliple parties of the same ideology.

    My Little Pony, you said "Built" instead of "Build" better change before he wises on".
    yeah, socialists are also me favorite.
    They have about 35% votes in my game, but i still cant get a democracy. i've enacted all political reforms, but nothing yet, and im still in 1893
    What makes a real American? A cowboy hat? Enjoying a fine T-bone
    steak? Going to a baseball game? Shooting a gun? Maybe it’s the freedom to go
    into a poor country and tell them how to do things?! Heh! Those are all great
    qualities! But one thing that makes a true patriot is the ability to choose
    an American car! When you buy an import you take a hot meal off a hard
    working American’s table. There, there! This poor girl is going
    to starve to death, just because you bought a cheaper, more efficient
    Maibazu. Without gross symbols of excess, what will Americans have to look up
    to? Our great industries is a threaten! Cars, pornography, armaments! And
    they need your help! So the next time you buy a car, a piece of adult
    literature or a missile defense system! Make sure you do the American thing!

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    a pure democracy usually only comes after a successful Jacobin uprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapax View Post
    Or perhaps you've been missing the point of modern warfare? Crush the enemy within a month and then fight an insurgency for the next 10 years..
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    I just got 9 inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halbard View Post
    They have about 35% votes in my game, but i still cant get a democracy. i've enacted all political reforms, but nothing yet, and im still in 1893
    I said this in the other thread. No amount of reforms will turn a Monarchy into a Republic. If you enact all those voting reforms, you're still "Democratic", you just still have a Monarch. In that regard "Democracy" in-game is a bit of a daft name, should probably be "Democratic Republic". If you want to become what the game terms a Democracy (i.e. a Republic), let Jacobin rebels win.
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    To answer some simple questions that have really simple answers:
    Economic policy:
    Laissez-Faire cannot build factories
    Interventionism cannot build factories
    State capitalism can build factories
    Planned economy can build factories

    If you are an absolute monarchy, after ANY voting reforms are passed you will become prussian constitutionalism
    If you are prussian constitutionalism after a certain level of voting reforms are passed you will become her majesty's government

    If you are an absolute monarchy you will become HM government if jacobins win, all others become democracy.

    If you are a presidential republic or any of the funky ones (fascist dictatorship, bourgeois dictatorship, proletarian dictatorship) then you will eventually become a democracy if you pass enough voting reforms. I'm not sure if there's an intermediate stage...

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