LinkGreece plans to raise 35 billion euros ($50.5 billion) from state-owned real estate assets by 2015, according to a report released yesterday by the Greek Finance Ministry.
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I wonder how much the Parthenon would go for?
LinkGreece plans to raise 35 billion euros ($50.5 billion) from state-owned real estate assets by 2015, according to a report released yesterday by the Greek Finance Ministry.
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I wonder how much the Parthenon would go for?
Last edited by Burnum; April 16, 2011 at 08:29 AM.
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I heard they are going to sell there islands to millionaires?
« Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
La Guerre notre Mère (Der Kampf als inneres Erlebnis), 1922, trad. Jean Dahel, éditions Albin Michel, 1934
The rear part of the Parthenon is actually a Pantheon (multi-god temple) so you could try and argue you meant what you said.
The point is that there are efforts here in Greece for a logistic committee to check at last what part of the debt is odious. But guess who are against, the media and the parties that ruled the last 30 years.
The sale of the state-owned Property Assets is rational if we are speaking about state companies with liability and not profitable ones.
As for the comments about the islands and the monuments i will quote an uneducated fighter of the Greek was of independence who stopped some of his men from doing harm (unintentionally) to some ancient artifacts:
"We fought for them also"
Quem faz injúria vil e sem razão,Com forças e poder em que está posto,Não vence; que a vitória verdadeira É saber ter justiça nua e inteira-He who, solely to oppress,Employs or martial force, or power, achieves No victory; but a true victory Is gained,when justice triumphs and prevails.
Luís de Camões
Let's be having those islands.
I don't know what is more valuable:
The island itself or the rights of it's shelf........in the Aegean
Quem faz injúria vil e sem razão,Com forças e poder em que está posto,Não vence; que a vitória verdadeira É saber ter justiça nua e inteira-He who, solely to oppress,Employs or martial force, or power, achieves No victory; but a true victory Is gained,when justice triumphs and prevails.
Luís de Camões
I heard from a friend that some rich Arab oil sheiks offered to buy several Greek monuments, this was before Greece's financial troubles, of course.
Islands don't have shelves.
Insular shelves:
http://www.ehow.com/about_6197042_de...r-shelves.html
Anyway, the point is that the economical benefits of an Aegean island may be laying there rather than on the island itself.![]()
Quem faz injúria vil e sem razão,Com forças e poder em que está posto,Não vence; que a vitória verdadeira É saber ter justiça nua e inteira-He who, solely to oppress,Employs or martial force, or power, achieves No victory; but a true victory Is gained,when justice triumphs and prevails.
Luís de Camões
« Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
La Guerre notre Mère (Der Kampf als inneres Erlebnis), 1922, trad. Jean Dahel, éditions Albin Michel, 1934
Sad day for Greece or any country when the family silver has to be flogged off to pay the creditors. Greece was kind of late in getting in a claim for royalties on the democracy idea now its become so popular.
Maybe its time for all the poor populations from the debtor nations Greece, Ireland and Portugal to move enmass to France and Germany and enjoy the rewards of the euro dream. I am sure our brother europeans would welcome us with open arms.
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If only i knew German i would have migrated there (some colleagues of mine did it )
In case it is not mentioned though here are some facts:
The one and only case the Greek state lend money was under the German occupancy (force to off course)
And guess what ,the Greek state didn't claim the post war amends nor it will.....
Quem faz injúria vil e sem razão,Com forças e poder em que está posto,Não vence; que a vitória verdadeira É saber ter justiça nua e inteira-He who, solely to oppress,Employs or martial force, or power, achieves No victory; but a true victory Is gained,when justice triumphs and prevails.
Luís de Camões
I lol'd at the Pantheon...
Optio, Legio I Latina
Quem faz injúria vil e sem razão,Com forças e poder em que está posto,Não vence; que a vitória verdadeira É saber ter justiça nua e inteira-He who, solely to oppress,Employs or martial force, or power, achieves No victory; but a true victory Is gained,when justice triumphs and prevails.
Luís de Camões
Ok you mocked Greece is it in enough
can you have a real discussion now ??
or do you want to see what States own and not uses ???
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
near in of most rich suburbs of Athens the old airport apart from some excibitions its unused
Greek State in comparison with other countries is huge and thats why failed
so in short it has many to sell in order to match European states
Αnother example is Railway system that in many countries is owned by not state companies same for Energy producing and water Supply and much more simillars cases
The only casino in Athenσ is state owned
So you may mock
cause you have pathetic stance towards Greece
But all the above nonsense posted proved how able are to judge for me actually all the above are spam if not mocking and insults
I AM ASHAMED TO READ THOSE NONSENSE it would be better if was moved in theme devia than being here
And actually Greece is doing what USA BRITAIN and ETC had done years ago but i never saw anyone saying hey Americans are selling White House or Bakiham Palace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privati...f_British_Rail
But thats you get posting in game forums political discusion you are surrouned from spoiled childs
Last edited by jo the greek; April 18, 2011 at 04:34 PM.
Turkey should buy all the islands in the egean sea just to troll Greece![]()
Obviously. Nothing new. In fact this was the plan from the start. For German and French enterprises to buy everything in Greece, starting from the Electricity, Communications and Water sectors, to airports, military industries and naval yards and finally islands and ancient sites.
It is obvious that Greece cannot pay this sum of money and when they decided to lend us money, they knew this. The case wasn't of course that the Germans or the French cared about us and gave us money that they'd never again see in their lives. They will just acquire everything that generates money in Greece and control the economy.
Wait, did Italy go bankrupt too?![]()
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