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    Default RTR CTD problem during battles... :( Please help.

    I was using a Radeon 9800 for many months now, and would get choppy performance with RTW, well RTR to be honest since thats all I play. Every once in a while, like every 1-2 hours of play, it would crash to the desktop with a minidump error. Mind you, this is after I had to change the PCI to AGP bridge to PCI to PCI to stop the infinite loop that Radeons have on some systems. But thats not the problem.

    You see I got tired of the CTDs, so I bought a GeForce 6600 256MB, not the GT version, and put it in. After resetting the PCI to PCI back to PCI to AGP 2.0/3.0, I started playing a small battle of 300 spartans vs 1500 Carthaginians. Well I was so happy, seeing such smooth frame rates. I decided to try a 4000 man battle next, I paused the game at the start of the battle to do some things real fast that came up, and after about 15 minutes of the game sitting in pause mode, it crashed to desktop without even an error message. I thought that was odd, so I tried doing the battle over, this time playing. I noticed extremely smooth frame rates, but it appeared that the game was "jumpy." Im not talking about choppy FPS, im talking like missing frames alltogether, or another way to describe it would be that the camera has jerky movement. Barely noticable, and I only mention it to provide any diagnostic info to those who can help. Well, every time I fight a battle over 2000 men, I get an instant CTD sometime within 3-5 minutes of the battle start. No error messages, windows doesnt even recognize it.

    I was so happy to see such smooth frame rates, I cannot tell you how distressed I am to have this problem. I hope someone can help, or tell me how to get a log of the error so I can know whats going on. Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and help me with this issue.

    System Specs:

    Windows XP
    Sempron 2800+
    768 MB RAM
    Geforce 6600 256 MB, latest nVidia drivers released this month
    Asus A7V type mobo
    450 watt PSU
    SoundBlaster Live! series

    RTW runs fine. So does BI. It appears to be a RTR Gold issue. I tried reinstalled RTR Gold to no avail. Please help! Cant go much longer without my fav game.

    I think thats everything. If you need to know more just ask I will answer to the best of my ability.
    -Voice of the Celtic warriors in EB 1 and writer of the original tutorial on sound and music editing for RTW.

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    The only thing that I could think of is corrupted RTR download. Mine never had any CTD at all so far after using 6.0 Gold even quite heavily modified. My spec much lower than you.. The usual lag during huge army battles but no CTD.


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    Well, I didnt even have RTR Gold when I first installed the GPU. It was actually RTR 6.2 and it crashed the same way its crashing with RTR Gold. Plus, the old 6.2 installation crashes were random, and occured even in the campaign map. These crashes are specific to the battle map, and only occur in RTR. I was hoping someone was having a similar problem and was able to solve it somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Azzole
    Well, I didnt even have RTR Gold when I first installed the GPU. It was actually RTR 6.2 and it crashed the same way its crashing with RTR Gold. Plus, the old 6.2 installation crashes were random, and occured even in the campaign map. These crashes are specific to the battle map, and only occur in RTR. I was hoping someone was having a similar problem and was able to solve it somehow.
    Re-read again I must add I had CTD during battle scene. Have you had any other modification made ? Sometimes when there's a discrepancy between files (export_desc_unit , desc_model_battle and animation files) can makes CTD during battle especially when one unit have been accidently change values in a way.

    If no other modification made then I cannot think of any.

    Also I'm an nVidia guy so I don't have any experience in Radeon cards (hell, I'm still using AGP board.. )


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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryTitusPullo
    Re-read again I must add I had CTD during battle scene. Have you had any other modification made ? Sometimes when there's a discrepancy between files (export_desc_unit , desc_model_battle and animation files) can makes CTD during battle especially when one unit have been accidently change values in a way.

    If no other modification made then I cannot think of any.

    Also I'm an nVidia guy so I don't have any experience in Radeon cards (hell, I'm still using AGP board.. )

    Hmm not too sure... I mean, I ran the game with the exact install that was working fine with the Radeon, but the new GeForce was causing it to crash during the battle sequences anyway with the install that was working fine. I'll try redownloading RTR gold and reinstalling again. It's so odd it only happens in RTR and no other games or mods, including the Chivalry Total War beta I tested.

    BTW, never EVER go Radeon. I've had tons of issues with that card before I could even get it to run right. I've always had nVidia cards and they never gave me issues until now. Im hoping it's the mod and not the GPU... im sure it is. Either way, I would hate to have to reinstall that damn Radeon to play RTR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Azzole
    Hmm not too sure... I mean, I ran the game with the exact install that was working fine with the Radeon, but the new GeForce was causing it to crash during the battle sequences anyway with the install that was working fine. I'll try redownloading RTR gold and reinstalling again. It's so odd it only happens in RTR and no other games or mods, including the Chivalry Total War beta I tested.

    BTW, never EVER go Radeon. I've had tons of issues with that card before I could even get it to run right. I've always had nVidia cards and they never gave me issues until now. Im hoping it's the mod and not the GPU... im sure it is. Either way, I would hate to have to reinstall that damn Radeon to play RTR.
    Okay, one more thing that I can think of is the driver issue. My RTR always CTD randomly if using the latest nvidia driver 78.?? or something, but if using the previous one no CTD hardware related issue. Maybe u can test upgrading or downgrading the current driver u are using ?


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