Women in Islam

[Astor]

We all know the bosh about male martyrs getting 72 virgins in heaven right? But what do female martyrs get? Is that mentioned anywhere? Just curious. Also, isn't the 72 chikas thing kind of degrading to women?

[PointOfViewGun]

We all know the bosh about male martyrs getting 72 virgins in heaven right? But what do female martyrs get? Is that mentioned anywhere? Just curious. Also, isn't the 72 chikas thing kind of degrading to women?

Maybe just maybe there is no such thing as giving 72 virgins to martyrs in Quran?

[(s)AINT]

Why 72? 73 is more able.

[Central Asian Qaghan]

There is no mention of 72 virgins in the Qur'an, its in the Hadith, of which there are various versions. I myself don't really believe in them so therefore as a Muslim I don't think there is any such thing. Besides the fact that suicide is frowned upon, I don't think there will be 72 virgins for any such person.

[The Dude]

I never understood the whole fascination with virgins anyway. "We want people who have never had sex before". Why? And why virgins in sex? Does the text specify virgins in sex? My sister's a virgin in MMO gaming. Does she meet the requirement?

Come to think of it, that would be sort of hilarious.

"Here you go sir, 72 virgins."
"Uhm, they all look like worn out hookers?"
"Sure, but there's a whole variety of stuff they've never done before so they're virgins as far as those things are concerned. Take em to a library, will be a whole new experience for them. Well, you have a good day now. Inshallah!"

[Captain Arrrgh!]

72??
Those who haven't should try getting married.
One woman is enough, bruthas.

[Apologist]

I never understood the whole fascination with virgins anyway. "We want people who have never had sex before". Why? And why virgins in sex? Does the text specify virgins in sex? My sister's a virgin in MMO gaming. Does she meet the requirement?

Come to think of it, that would be sort of hilarious.

"Here you go sir, 72 virgins."
"Uhm, they all look like worn out hookers?"
"Sure, but there's a whole variety of stuff they've never done before so they're virgins as far as those things are concerned. Take em to a library, will be a whole new experience for them. Well, you have a good day now. Inshallah!"

Virgin means you haven't had sex. To be a virgin at MMO gaming [or anything meaning something other than sex] is just a colloquial term, nothing more.

[(s)AINT]

There is no mention of 72 virgins in the Qur'an, its in the Hadith, of which there are various versions. I myself don't really believe in them so therefore as a Muslim I don't think there is any such thing. Besides the fact that suicide is frowned upon, I don't think there will be 72 virgins for any such person.

The hadith is taken just as seriously has the qur'an. Don't fool yourself.

[PointOfViewGun]

The hadith is taken just as seriously has the qur'an. Don't fool yourself.

Then you'd have many more Muslims blowing up themselves or simply fighting.

[(s)AINT]

Then you'd have many more Muslims blowing up themselves or simply fighting.

Ask Salman Rushdie.

[PointOfViewGun]

Ask Salman Rushdie.

Does he know some alternate universe where Muslims fight in masses to get virgins?

[Exarch]

i dunno bout youse guys but 72 virgins are worth fighting for than an eternity of singing a deity's praises

[Sadreddine]

Well, that's the idea

[Dr Zoidberg]

For the last time! It's not 72 virgins, it's one 72 year old virgin.

[Captain Arrrgh!]

For the last time! It's not 72 virgins, it's one 72 year old virgin.

That's totally hawt. Sign me up. ALALALALALALALLA!

[Exarch]

For the last time! It's not 72 virgins, it's one 72 year old virgin.

i've heard it may actually be a mistranslation, that it may actually be 72 raisins

either way, it's still worth more than an eternity of singing a deity's praises lol

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[Carpathian Wolf]

What the Hadith says caries the same weight as the Quran UNLESS it is contradicted by the Quran in which case the Quran takes precedence.

And the Virginity thing I think is just the traditional concept of not wanting someone else's finger in your pudding before you've eaten it.

[Yosemite]

What the Hadith says caries the same weight as the Quran UNLESS it is contradicted by the Quran in which case the Quran takes precedence.

And the Virginity thing I think is just the traditional concept of not wanting someone else's finger in your pudding before you've eaten it.

it's only standardized like this in certain sects

even within sunnites, there are people who disagree on this

are you a specialist on islam?

[Carpathian Wolf]

You don't read the Qur'an front to back. You read from a specific point when he first started preaching to where it ended. If you just read it front to back, you get mixed messages. You start from 30 and read till 1.

it's only standardized like this in certain sects

even within sunnites, there are people who disagree on this

are you a specialist on islam?

Not sure what that entails. I've considered converting but decided against it. I like to read up on it and the history surrounding that area. I'd rather read about the mid east than western europe.