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    Default [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1


    Anda




    This submod will try to make the mongols more authentic. I will do this step by step and everyone can participate or share his thoughts, e.i. the constructive ones.
    Im also busy doing other stuff outside of this submod , so once in a while I will try to make this thingie bigger. Just dont expect regular updates like some other submods.



    Changelog:
    v0.1:

    -Authentic family tree : Genghis ,his wife and kids.
    -Unique portraits for Genghis ,Ogodei, Tolui and Subutai
    -Quotes
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    O people ,know that you have committed great sins, and that the great ones among you have omitted these sins. If you ask me what proof I have for these words, I say it is because I am the punishment of God. If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.

    Mongol proclamation after the capture of Bukhara


    They came ,they sapped ,they burnt, they slew, they plundered and they departed.

    Man who escaped the massacre at Bukhara by the Mongols


    They razed cities to the ground ,burnt woods, pulled down castles, tore up vine trees, destroyed gardens, and massacred the citizens and husbandmen; if by chance they did spare any who begged their lives, they compelled them, as slaves of the lowest condition, to fight in front of them against their own kindred.

    Matthew Paris , English monk, on the Mongols in his Chronica Majora


    This son of yours is a boy, who has fire in his eyes, who has light in his face.

    Dai-Sechen talking to Genghis’ father


    In the same year, for our sins ,there came unknown tribes, and some people called them Tartars…Only God knows who these people are or from whence they came.

    Russian Chronicler on the blitzattack and return home of the Mongols after the battle at the Khalkha River


    Well, he appoints an officer to every ten men, one to every hundred, one to every thousand, and one to every ten thousand, so that his orders have to be given to ten persons only, and each of these ten persons has to pass the orders to only another ten men, and so on; no one having to give orders to more than ten. And everyone in turn is responsible only to the officer immediately over him; and the discipline and order that comes of this method is marvelous, for they are a people very obedient to their chiefs.

    Marco Polo on the organization of the Mongol army instituted by the Khan


    Their food consists of everything that can be eaten, for they eat dogs, wolves, foxes and horses and, when driven by necessity, they feed on human flesh… They eat the filth which comes away from mares when they bring forth foals. Nay, I have even seen them eating lice. They would say, ‘Why should I not eat them since they eat the flesh of my son and drink his blood?’

    Franciscan monk, John de Plano Carpini on the Mongols


    When they are going on a distant expedition they take no gear with them except two leather bottles for milk; a little tent to shelter them from the rain. And in case of great urgency they will ride ten days on end without lighting a fire or taking a meal. On such occasion they will sustain themselves on the blood of their horses, opening a vein and letting the blood jet into their mouths, drinking till they have had enough, and then staunching it.

    Marco Polo on the Mongols

    If we conquer the enemy, we shall not stop to plunder. If the victory is complete, that booty will be ours in any case and we will share it among ourselves. If we are forced by the enemy to retreat, let us turn back to the point where we began the attack. The men who do not turn back to the point where we began the attack will be cut down.

    Genghis Khan


    If you are obedient to my mandates, it behooveth that, if I should command the sons to slay the father, you should all obey.

    Genghis Khan


    If anyone is found in the act of plundering or stealing in the territory under their power, he is put to death without any mercy.

    Franciscan monk, John de Plano Carpini on one of the Mongol foundations for the Pax Mongolica



    The Emperor of the Tartars has a remarkable power over everyone. No one dare saty anywhere except the place he has assigned to him. It is he who appoints where the chiefs are to be, but the chiefs fix the positions of the captains of a thousand, the captains of a thousand those of the captains of a hundred, and the captains of a hundred those of the captains of ten. Moreover ,whatever command he gives them, be it battle, to life or to death, the obey without word of objection.

    Franciscan monk, John de Plano Carpini on the Mongol organization


    Let any officer who cannot keep order in his own squad be branded a criminal along with his wife and children, and let another be chosen as officer from his squad and companies of a hundred, a thousand, and ten thousand likewise.

    Mongol bilig as stated by the Khan


    There is no warrior like Yesügei Bahadur, and no one else possesses the skills he had, but he did not suffer from hardship and was not affected by hunger or thirst. He thought his liege men could tolerate hardship as well as he could, but they couldn’t. A man is worthy of leadership who knows what hunger and thirst are and who can judge the condition of others thereby, who can go at a measured pace and not allow the soldiers to get hungry and thirsty or the horses to get worn out.

    Genghis Khan



    (25/06):
    - Inserted quotes and will now work on accent.

    Future plans

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 






    • Mongol war banner,only carried by the Khan. This is still a work in progress so I will try my best to let that other flag dissappear.


    • Implement music and some sound effects from STW MI. (already received permission from a hex for that)


    • Change factionscreen in menu ,under your conquered regions thingie.
    • Add in the mongols religion : Tengriism
    • Add several historical retinue
    • Add traits to historical characters
    • Redesign the invasion of Europe with proper numbers and decent money bonuses to sustan your vast army. (which is historical btw)
    • Adjust familymarrying into something destroying
    • Add ancillaries
    • Adjust unit stats and options
    • Give better descr for some units
    • Some yes/no scripts
    • Add in some military titles
    • Catch up on the history and get some ideas out of book I just got from ebay and try to make it real.
    • .... your usefull ideas

    Where can YOU help... yeah YOU who is reading this :)


    • Portraits of Chagatai and Jochi.
    • Any ebooks, regular books, links containing info about the golden horde.


    Used literature about the Mongols

    The Devil's Horsemen - James Chambers
    The Mongol Art of War - Timothy May



    installation

    Place the data pack in your mods/SS6.3 and extract + let everything overwrite
    I have noticed that each time I redid the SS setup,the changed files returned to vanilla so please place it after youve finished the setup.
    Enjoy


    Downloadlink


    CREDITS:
    Ishan
    Gigantus
    CC
    For aiding me in the workshop.
    Last edited by BURNY26; June 25, 2011 at 07:05 AM.
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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    Nice +rep. What else are you planning for it?

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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    Updated OP
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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    Hey guys ,just dropping in to say that this submod is still going and that I have an additional member : HappyMorningStar ,who actually lives in Mongolia and will help me on several matters. He is also a very talented artist so I will be sure to add in a lot of his artwork As from friday I will rebegin modding and I have come up with lots of new ideas since I have been devouring Mongolliterature.
    For those who wish to contribute ,take a look at the OP and at this thread. I NEED this info!

    So expect some updates as early as next week already coming from my BURNY26account!
    Semper fidelis!!!

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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    Ahhh, something good for the Mongols You should try and find a way to implement the Yam, perhaps as a building that increases trade goods.

    "Blood brother" for the name of a submod eh? I like it.
    "When I lead my army against Baghdad in anger, whether you hide in heaven or in earth, I will bring you down from the spinning spheres; I will toss you in the air like a lion. I will leave no one alive in your realm; I will burn your city, your land, your self. If you wish to spare yourself and your venerable family, give heed to my advice with the ear of intelligence. If you do not, you will see what God has willed." -Hülegü, the "Destroyer of Baghdad"

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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    Your fast you Yam will be included! I will update list tomorrow or saturday for all planned changes. And than see which are feasable.
    Last edited by BURNY26; June 16, 2011 at 04:33 PM.
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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    Quote Originally Posted by BURNY26 View Post
    Your fast you Yam will be included! I will update list tomorrow or saturday for all planned changes. And than see which are feasable.
    You gonna get the Great Khan's age right and have him born in 1162? I blow a gasket everytime I see 1167. The Mongols going to have a blood trait? If so, probably something that increases mobility would be most fitting.
    "When I lead my army against Baghdad in anger, whether you hide in heaven or in earth, I will bring you down from the spinning spheres; I will toss you in the air like a lion. I will leave no one alive in your realm; I will burn your city, your land, your self. If you wish to spare yourself and your venerable family, give heed to my advice with the ear of intelligence. If you do not, you will see what God has willed." -Hülegü, the "Destroyer of Baghdad"

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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    It will go beyond your wildest dreams!
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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    How about having unique strat map models for the armies?

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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    Did you check OP ?
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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    Quote Originally Posted by BURNY26 View Post
    Did you check OP ?
    Well yes I did, and I don't see anything about strat map models there?

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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    Quote Originally Posted by el Cid View Post
    Well yes I did, and I don't see anything about strat map models there?
    Check the spoiler in "future plans" and read the quote from the OP below.
    Mongol war banner,only carried by the Khan. This is still a work in progress so I will try my best to let that other flag dissappear.

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    Default Re: [WIP]Anda (attempt for an improved mongol faction) v0.1

    What about Mongol invasion?They are a little aggressive

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