Need someone to teach me how to play effectively in Multiplayer

[kostas84]

I suck, can someone please add me in-game so that he can teach me the basics and advanced stuff through battles?

Because i practically suck right now.


Try adding Xxkostas84xX , if you dont find anyone, please send me a PM with your profile/Steam Username so that i can add you.


Can you please help im getting slowly irritated and pissed off because i lose all the time.

[Just4Fun]

if you cant get eney one to teach you i suggest watching some you tube vids, here are some links to some casters i think you could learn a thing or to from.
also look around in other threads im sure youl find some tips and other decent casters you could learn from

http://www.youtube.com/user/ReflexCss

http://www.youtube.com/user/lessthanwords

gl

[Uncle_Uzi]

Here's a good basic strategy that most players will follow and make their own variations on:

Form your Melee infantry into a solid battle line. Make sure Yari units are positioned on the sides (this deters cavalry flanks).

In front of them, deploy all of your archers in a line set to LOOSE formation, skirmishing so they will fall back through the main battle line when charged (<--very important!)

On your own judgement, have your cavalry either divided on the extreme flanks of your army, or mass them together in a position that will allow them to get around the enemy without archers hitting them.

From this basic setup, you need to know how to maintain formation on the march and how to quickly change the direction of your battle line to react to enemy advances. If you manage to get the bulk of their army engaged, use your cavalry units to sweep in on the flank and eliminate archers or win the melee.

But the fact is, this game is tough. You need to be well versed in the hot keys and be able to quickly jump to different parts of the map to make sure flank attacks come together correctly.

Good luck.

EDIT: Also you need to understand that one bad order can be the difference between victory and defeat. For instance, in one battle I had, all of the melee troops on both sides died or routed. It came down to an archer duel. I lost because I accidentally had my archers grouped, and when I ordered them to advance, they all started running in different directions, letting the enemy shoot them up individually. It pissed me off beyond belief, because I had nearly x1.5 as many men left as he did, but because of that accidental movement order, he managed to concentrate his missile fire and wipe my men out before they could even get a volley off.

[Pyramid Head]

Experience is the best teacher. Play more.

[Ragga]

i'd be more that happy to help ya out... especially now with "bob's" technique on getting vet... we can "farm", I mean practice a few games...

[The Bobba-Job]

i'd be more that happy to help ya out... especially now with "bob's" technique on getting vet... we can "farm", I mean practice a few games...

Lolz

I recomend you take a few notes from this guy, hes a commentator that focuses on the basics, and is a good starting point for newer players. http://www.youtube.com/user/fishsandwichpatrol

[Blom89]

Quality > Quantity in my opinion.

Dont bother with yari ashigaru or any other spear infantry. instead use cavalry to counter enemy cavalry and keep your infantry lines full of samurai, as they will destroy the loan sword and ashigaru spams your bound to face online.

Samurai will always defeat ashigaru and loan swords, even when someone spams them at you, which is what 99% of all people do. Just make sure you rank your samurai up as fast as you can and use there skill points for charge and attack and some defense points are good too, especially if your ever out numbered.

Cover your flanks with at least 1 unit of cavalry per side, preferably 2 per side. cavalry roll right over sword infantry, so samurai heavy armies are very vulnerable to cavalry.

never leave your flanks open if the enemy has a decent amount of cavalry in his army.
use your own cavalry to attack enemy cavalry if they attack your flank.

when your archers are exchanging volleys with enemy archers, keep them in loose formation.

keep your general as close to the battle as you can. he gives a lot of bonuses and use rally if morale begins to drop.

Samurai > all other infantry
Cavalry > samurai
Spear men > cavalry
archers > cavalry (unless cavalry charges them, then cav wins)

a well balance small funds army might look like this:

1 general
3 katana samurai
2 units light cavalry
2 bow units

use the 2 units of cavalry to guard your flanks and bring your bow units up to engage enemy range units.

your katana samurai should easily over whelm the enemies loan swords and ashigaru.

[The Bobba-Job]

Quality >
Samurai > all other infantry
Cavalry > samurai
Spear men > cavalry
archers > cavalry (unless cavalry charges them, then cav wins)

Naginata Warrior Monks > Gamble Fish
Thats how good they are.

[GambleFish]

Naginata Warrior Monks > Gamble Fish
Thats how good they are.

So true.... I got beat by yellow a few weeks ago because his whole army was monks!

[removeduser_45762834756]

So true.... I got beat by yellow a few weeks ago because his whole army was monks!

lol "entire army" is wrong.. it was more precicely like 85% of it ^^ i had cavl and some samurais....

[Haru]

Naginata Warrior Monks > Gamble Fish
Thats how good they are.

Duly noted.

On Topic: But yeah, after I completed campaign once. I never saw the need to go back into it again, it was all MP games for me after that, keep switching back and fourth between the Battle List and Match Making, the rest I've learned from the following;

- Youtube videos

- Various forums

- Various websites

- Encyclopedia

- Losing

[Uncle_Uzi]

Dont bother with yari ashigaru or any other spear infantry. instead use cavalry to counter enemy cavalry and keep your infantry lines full of samurai, as they will destroy the loan sword and ashigaru spams your bound to face online.

Samurai will always defeat ashigaru and loan swords, even when someone spams them at you, which is what 99% of all people do. Just make sure you rank your samurai up as fast as you can and use there skill points for charge and attack and some defense points are good too, especially if your ever out numbered.

^This.^



This is something I do not do. The Yari is something you MUST bring to battle. To risk having no spears against a cavalry heavy army is beyond foolish. Too risky a gamble to leave them out at the selection screen.

Naginata aren't quite as effective. They bridge the gap between Katana and Yari, but aren't as good as either in the situations they were made for. Naginata Samurai are best used as a rearguard for the army, as they can be trusted to hold against infantry AND cavalry. But they will never be able to hack through Ashigaru like Katana Samurai, or hold against cavalry as decisively as Yari troops.

Using cavalry to counter other cavalry is simply foolish. You aren't using them in their optimal role - driving home into the flank of a battle line and carving up enemy units. To make sure the enemy doesn't do the same, you bring Yari infantry. Diversity is the greatest weapon a general can possess - thus the adage remains true.

[turdles]

^This.^



This is something I do not do. The Yari is something you MUST bring to battle. To risk having no spears against a cavalry heavy army is beyond foolish. Too risky a gamble to leave them out at the selection screen.

Naginata aren't quite as effective. They bridge the gap between Katana and Yari, but aren't as good as either in the situations they were made for. Naginata Samurai are best used as a rearguard for the army, as they can be trusted to hold against infantry AND cavalry. But they will never be able to hack through Ashigaru like Katana Samurai, or hold against cavalry as decisively as Yari troops.

Using cavalry to counter other cavalry is simply foolish. You aren't using them in their optimal role - driving home into the flank of a battle line and carving up enemy units. To make sure the enemy doesn't do the same, you bring Yari infantry. Diversity is the greatest weapon a general can possess - thus the adage remains true.

I also used to have no yari infantry at all, and use my superior cavalry to kill theirs. However problems arise when the enemy has better cavalry, or they're able to out manoeuvre your own cavalry. Also I like having some trashy units which I can use to draw fire and/or waste ammo. This is why I now always bring some yari ashigaru units.

[Timox]

^This.^



This is something I do not do. The Yari is something you MUST bring to battle. To risk having no spears against a cavalry heavy army is beyond foolish. Too risky a gamble to leave them out at the selection screen.

Naginata aren't quite as effective. They bridge the gap between Katana and Yari, but aren't as good as either in the situations they were made for. Naginata Samurai are best used as a rearguard for the army, as they can be trusted to hold against infantry AND cavalry. But they will never be able to hack through Ashigaru like Katana Samurai, or hold against cavalry as decisively as Yari troops.

Using cavalry to counter other cavalry is simply foolish. You aren't using them in their optimal role - driving home into the flank of a battle line and carving up enemy units. To make sure the enemy doesn't do the same, you bring Yari infantry. Diversity is the greatest weapon a general can possess - thus the adage remains true.

I wouldn't say that you are completely wrong, just misguided.

1) Spears suck - they just die. You can easily risk meeting a cav heavy army with no spears. Usually cav spammers are noobs who don't micro their cav enough. The rare exceptions to this can be overlooked.

2) Naginatas are extremely effective. But not at killing. They are an ideal defensive unit. Monk naginatas on the other hand can be used as an offensive unit with warcry.

3) Using cavalry to counter other cavalry is "the only way to roll". This way you can destroy enemy cavalry BEFORE it is sitting in the back of your army and you microing both front and back. Attempting a flanking attack with your infantry in this case will make you loose your attention on the two fronts that you have already which is bad.

4) Diversity on the battlefield is your general greatest weakness. When you enter a battle it is better to have a few groups of similar units fulfilling a particular role then to have small amounts of everything. You will have more bonuses from retainers if you bring a more unified force.

But the moral of the story is that no matter what units and retainers you bring it's the general strategy is what matters.

[StormtrooperDan]

The best way to improve in multiplayer is to watch replays and learn from your opponent. If he beats you, watch the replay and do what he does next game.

[xccam]

Play alot, and after youve done that play some more.

[swoosh so]

Here you will find nice information for a beginner

http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumd...hp?339-TWS2-MP

[Rikstah]

Upload some replays so we can have a look at what you might be doing wrong.

[sabresandiego]

When I first got this game 2 weeks ago, I chose the archery dojo and brought lots of archers. I also didnt know anything about vet units, and jumped straight into multiplayer without really knowing how to play. My mostly ranged army kept me losing games most of the time. I am now top 50 on the leaderboards just from constantly playing games and learning how important vets are, as well as good unit selection. Those are my 2 biggest tips. Get good vets, and build a strong unit composition. Micro is the same as any other RTS game.