Replayability= better than I would of thought

[BigFiasco]

I remember being about 40 turns into my first SP campaign and thinking, ok, very cool, but the similiarities between clans and the one continent map is going to get old....am I really going to enjoy playing this thru time after time?

Well I've completed two campaigns now, and I think the replayability is actually really good. Im using the All in One mod on Hard/Hard

I had two totally different experiences in my 2 campaigns. In the first, played the Date and watched as the Takeda pretty much dominated up until the end owning over 2/3 of the continent when I got to 1600. I tried using a system of peaceful trading and acquiring vassals (I believe too early) and they ended up turning on me in the end. Realm divide rolled around and i took a whooping not being prepared for it. I missed the Long Victory by 15 provinces.

2nd I was the Oda and just missed the 40 province requirement by 2. Used a system of attack attack attack right off the bat, taking less vassals until the divide. Worked better. Thing is tho, totally different experience. The Takeda were reduced to a single province early on and never recovered. The Usuegi went on a tear and took out the Date. I kept more alliances, longer, by paying clans off...offering access..etc. The alliances between the CPU clans seemed totally different in this campaign as well.

Very cool. Im pretty happy with the disparity in the two campaigns

[Drowsy]

Totally agree! I'm working on my 5th Oda campaign atm using TROM and having a total blast with the early teppo's. The only similarities in the different campaigns is that all eventually crumble under Oda might!

[The_Nord]

I thought I'd be bored after one campaign, me being a unit junkie and all, but I've actually completed 2 campaigns in quick succession and I'm on my third one now as the Date-clan and I'm still having a blast. Still I hope for expansions that add maybe a korea campaign or something.

[BigFiasco]

i also hope to see korea

[SupAll]

I'm on my 5th campaign. Each time I play, I play as a different faction and try to focus on their strengths. I've played as the following in the order listed:

* Shimazu (Save file got corrupted. Couldn't finish this one). (N/N)
* Date (N/N).
* Hattori (H/H w/ AllInOne mod).
* Oda (H/H w/ AllInOne + DarthMod).
* Uesugi (VH/VH w/ AllInOne + DarthMod / Continuing).

Once I'm done with my Uesugi, I'm taking off the mods and playing Legendary as the Chosokabe or Takeda. Not sure which one yet... hrmmm...

[Dubh the dark]

Using the same clan on the same difficulty settings the campaign can play out completely different, it's a definite plus and a step up for the series. CA should be congratulated on that aspect

[Kev006]

Lets see, 129 hours played in the game so far and I've been enjoying the differences also. I usually go with a theme for my campaign since you don't really have the time to research all trees in Bushido as well as the essential Chi skills, until the campaign is at the point where you can't be stopped

For instance when I play Date I research all the sword bushido abilities first then branch off into archery and generally ignore guns and spears entirely.

When playing Shimazu I went Christian and wanted to use firearms and cannon so I went sword research and firearm research.

When playing the Oda clan I went spear/gun research. This campaign was pretty hilarious in that I eventually went on to get Oda Nobunaga to a rank 6 general and he has the ashigaru commander talents maxed out on top of other morale boosts on top of the base oda ashigaru morale boost. I also had a temporary buff to my ashigaru spearmen which was causing them to be produced out of kyoto and owari at 8 experience and they had 26 morale right out of the camp!!! Most samurai units have 12-15ish. UNBREAKABLE PEASANTS!

I've also played as Hattori and attempted to focus on using mostly ninja units, much to my dismay the sword expertise upgrades in the bushido tree do not affect the kisho ninja units though. The clan itself was a lot of fun and unique from others since all their ashigaru and samurai units have "Kisho training" which allows them to deploy anywhere a kisho ninja unit can deploy normally adding a lot more potential strategy to every battle.

Chosokabe focusing on archers obviously, the first clan I beat the game on legendary with since I figured I would give legendary a shot with the easiest clan in the game. Afterwards I tried Takeda on Hard and it was a hell of a lot harder than legendary Chosokabe (I lost the Takeda campaign)

When playing Tokugawa I went Chi first instead of Bushido, very soon into the campaign the Imagawa clan declared war on me and I just barely managed to survive and then take their provinces. My westernmost province was Owari and the Hattori clan had all provinces surrounding that, I relied on my superior diplomacy to keep them from declaring war on me while I campaign eastwards taking everything all the way up to the Date home province and back down through the Uesugi home province and back to Owari, the Hattori remained peaceful until the realm divide became too much (this was a vanilla campaign)

Really the path that you choose to research determines your army compositions for at least half the game and that makes it enjoyable and replayable to me. And I'm still not bored!

[RandarKal]

Could never understand the people who find diversity lacking in this game...my armies are more varied in this then in any other TW. Greek vs Roman armies, main difference was Armored Hoplites instead of Legionary Cohorts, and still used in much the same way in campaign anyway...and don't get me started on the repetitive nature of ETW's armies.

As for strategies for facing the enemy? in previous games, the same strategy would work regardless of the enemies army, now, my strategies are different, not so much because the AI acts different, but because my armies function differently...

And yet, with the decent AI, and the speed of the game makes my old RTW tactics useless...which i find fantastic

along with the fact that any clan seems capable of rising or being crushed when compared to other games, it is quite awesome

[Dubh the dark]

Could never understand the people who find diversity lacking in this game...my armies are more varied in this then in any other TW. Greek vs Roman armies, main difference was Armored Hoplites instead of Legionary Cohorts, and still used in much the same way in campaign anyway...and don't get me started on the repetitive nature of ETW's armies.

As for strategies for facing the enemy? in previous games, the same strategy would work regardless of the enemies army, now, my strategies are different, not so much because the AI acts different, but because my armies function differently...

And yet, with the decent AI, and the speed of the game makes my old RTW tactics useless...which i find fantastic

along with the fact that any clan seems capable of rising or being crushed when compared to other games, it is quite awesome

You spoke my mind + rep

[The Sweeper]

I like replaying games because you don't know how the clans will end up. A couple of games I played some moved around the map, having lost their home province. It makes the game different each time because you end up with different provinces and different allies, and different strategies for expansion. I've almost played all the clans now (played, not finished all) and I've enjoyed myself with all of them so far.

[Ecka65]

I'm over 250 hrs now - home recovering from work injury - so I suppose I could hardly argue against replayability!

However, I can say that once the game "clicks" with you, regardless of what the Ai is doing (different clans taking over etc) YOUR play tends to remain pretty similiar. To change it requires YOU to try different approaches (which I often do from a roleplay angle).

I suppose my point is, I can understand both perspectives on the replayability argument.

[SenseiTW]

Great to see so many of you enjoying the game (especially for 100+ hours plus!). I have been playing the game since it started development and can honestly say that I am still enjoying it!

[Dubh the dark]

Great to see so many of you enjoying the game (especially for 100+ hours plus!). I have been playing the game since it started development and can honestly say that I am still enjoying it!

It really is a great game, even though we all attack you over certain issues, this time around the major project is good - well done

[-iceblade^]

It really is a great game, even though we all attack you over certain issues, this time around the major project is good - well done

this. i'm not quite as demanding as some, and for me the game is real fun. well worth the release day buy and it makes up for the failures of Empire IMO

[Humble Warrior]

Great to see so many of you enjoying the game (especially for 100+ hours plus!). I have been playing the game since it started development and can honestly say that I am still enjoying it!

This game is certainly worth the money this time.

[Fracchione]

This game is certainly worth the money this time.

elaborate,please

[Humble Warrior]

elaborate,please

Actually, if you can`t figure it out for yourself, there`s no point in me telling you.

[Fracchione]

Actually, if you can`t figure it out for yourself, there`s no point in me telling you.

why so bad?(I don't own the game,btw)

[AngryTitusPullo]

Great to see so many of you enjoying the game (especially for 100+ hours plus!). I have been playing the game since it started development and can honestly say that I am still enjoying it!

No wonder you didn't come to this forum much. Too busy playing eh ?

[Poochies]

Great to see so many of you enjoying the game (especially for 100+ hours plus!). I have been playing the game since it started development and can honestly say that I am still enjoying it!

Do any of you use mods??