Classic Battles doomed?

[Lucullus]

Does CA want to get rid of classic battles?

Classic battles are still not visible in the battlelist, only if you put the filter especially on "classic battle" (which nobody does). Please fix this as soon as possible its the only way to play somewhat balanced.

Also the unit cards still mess up in battle big time as they are not fixed on their position.

[Knowing Crow]

What are classic battles?


Kidding. Yeah, never play them anyway, don't see the reason to.

[VersionLangley]

They fixed the random crash when hosting classic mode at least...haven't re-encounter it so far

Players might have catch on that classic mode have its own separate list as occasionally some random player joined. However, it's definitely absurd that "all" doesn't include classic mode

[The Bobba-Job]

Until classic battles gain a better unit diversity in comparison to avatar campainge games, they wont be used apart from in tournies.

[daniu]

Until classic battles gain a better unit diversity in comparison to avatar campainge games, they wont be used apart from in tournies.

I agree, avatar campaigns are superior to classical battles beyond the fun of unlocking new things.
I really haven't found huge balance breaker either, so the "everybody has to have the exact same roster to choose from for the game to be fair" notion seems like a conservatistic reflex to me.

[Pyramid Head]

Classic battles was crap since the beginning because they encouraged BOTH players to camp. Should we have attacker\defender roles, there will be no universal "sit'n'wait until enemy attacks". Still better than Empire.

[Nigel_Loring]

Does CA want to get rid of classic battles?

I certainly dont hope so.

My guess is that classical battles will keep this game interesting, once everyone has leveled up their avatars to 10 stars and is getting bored when there is nothing more to unlock.

Maybe we should flag this at their .com site.

[The Bobba-Job]

I find classic battles quite bland and boring in Shogun. All factions have a fairly mimial selection of universal units. The factions lack variety, and without variety, things get very boring, very quickly.

Experamentation is limited due to a lack of unit depth, thus I recon online tactics will no doubt become farily reciprocal between players after a good few months.

They need to bring back a sense of indivudailty for each faction, by including not only recognisable units, but unique units, like the good old winged hussars, old guard, urban cohort, blue guard, sacred band, and spartan hoplites.

Whats the point of making these factions all have the same units, but with slightly differing`mons` and strengths. Is absoulte boredom the response CA is looking for?

[VersionLangley]

Avatar setup diversity lies in the retainers system, assuming that everyone is level 10 and already unlocked everything. This mode does reward the amount of crunch time put the game(looking for random-drop and level up your avatar and veterans)
Looking at it competitively, classic mode is the best way to go as veterans units is equally available, player lvl are equal (no lvl) and retainers are equal (in which there are none). Casual players who don't spend enough time looking for random drops and level up their veterans are at a disadvantage.

They need to bring back a sense of indivudailty for each faction, by including not only recognisable units, but unique units, like the good old winged hussars, old guard, urban cohort, blue guard, sacred band, and spartan hoplites.

Those are only model visual difference. How much uniqueness between sacred band vs Spartan; and shimazu katana vs other katana samurai? beside the model

[The Bobba-Job]

Those are only better visual difference. How much uniqueness between sacred band vs Spartan; and shimazu katana vs other katana samurai?

The units i mentioned aren't just a visual difference as you say, they also implament a tacticle diversity. Old guard with thier scare ability, winged hussars with thier unmatched charge, and spartans with thier steadfast moral all demand tacticle comprimises, thus diverrsifying the multiplayer experience threw a need for greater thought and consideration during play.

[Magic_8_Ball]

spartans

Not to steal your thunder, but Spartans kind of sucked in RTW. ^^

At least nobody can complain about too much imbalance on this game with Classical. To be honest, I get kind of sick of forest hill campers, so some classical activity would be nice. Nothing's like the good old flat map and a fair rule set.

once they sell 2 or 3 packages of DLC units there will be plenty of variety!

Awesome! Plenty of money I can give away, too!

[The Bobba-Job]

Not to steal your thunder, but Spartans kind of sucked in RTW. ^^

At least nobody can complain about too much imbalance on this game with Classical. To be honest, I get kind of sick of forest hill campers, so some classical activity would be nice. Nothing's like the good old flat map and a fair rule set.



Awesome! Plenty of money I can give away, too!

I ain't played rome in ages, and tbh i only ever payed campainge, for some reason mp didnt work Thanks for pointing that out

[daniu]

classic mode is the best way to go as veterans units is equally available, player lvl are equal (no lvl) and retainers are equal (in which there are none).

The difference in veteran availability is an advantage, as it allows everybody to form his army after his own preferences; as long as pricing reflects the veterans' improvement, there is no imbalance (right now, some upgrades could do with a price adjustment though).
There is also a huge difference between not having any retainers and having all retainers. Not having any means that the meta-game is limited to chosing one's army, while being able to chose your retainers adds a whole new level to overall gameplay.

[dmcheatw]

once they sell 2 or 3 packages of DLC units there will be plenty of variety!

[swoosh so]

At the moment avatar mode with no vets is better than classic mode for a balanced game and i hope thats the format used in serious community tournaments.