As a High Rank against a low rank

[turdles]

Does anyone else hate the battles in which you're a high rank and placed in a battle against a level 1 or 2 and you only have 5000 monies? When the General costs 1800, I end up fielding an army so much smaller than the enemy's, and it's always really difficult unless the enemy is truly awful. Gets to a point now where I dread playing against level ones and level twos. The main reason I suppose is that my General is heavily invested in leadership, if he was a melee General the games would probably be very easy.

[Saiyaman]

i fought a lvl 10 who had like 300 units...all massively upgraded.... vs my lvl 3 gen of 800 units.... i think he lost like 35 units...
i'm not horrible but... that lowered my ego quite a bit.

[sutphin]

My general is exactly like yours. He has full leadership abilities but nothing in any other area. I field probably 4 units not including my general in these battles and win half of them. I always lose if they bring a bunch of loan swords. One level 2 brought 1 yari cav. and like 8 loan swords. Lets just say it sucked. (He got wildfire off me)

[deeptrance83]

I've beaten full armies of ashiagru w/ only 3 units. If you're a high lvl going against a lvl 1-3 on low funds, you need a strong cav, preferably Great Guard to take out the general. Also having katana hero or warrior monks w/ warcry. Low funds may put you at the numerical dissadvantage but you will have the morale advantage. Those numbers don't mean a thing when they're beaing cut down while they flee.

[GambleFish]

Yep. I'm always afraid I'll get beaten, those battles are super risky.

[AggonyKing]

I like them sure would be nice if I could take more units but still keeps the choices fresh and not always the same.

[sutphin]

Well I was a level 5 at the time. Plus I still have no great guard cav or katana heroes. So, mabe these battles are hardest for the 5-through-7 ranks. Being a level ten, you will of course have overpowered units. I only had decent veterans at the time and he overwhelmed me.

[turdles]

Well I was a level 5 at the time. Plus I still have no great guard cav or katana heroes. So, mabe these battles are hardest for the 5-through-7 ranks. Being a level ten, you will of course have overpowered units. I only had decent veterans at the time and he overwhelmed me.

No, it gets worse as your General gets more expensive, I remember looking at playing level ones as a free win. Now I see them as a very boring game in which I have to spam Ashigaru with a single highly ranked up Great Guard, and hope he's doesn't have an entire army of spear and sword units, and hope he doesn't protect his General.

[Naramzu]

I fought a few times against HIGHER ranking players who used ashigaru spam tactics, and i won, although one time just barely. Just don't get enveloped by their superior manpower, and don't be intimidated, instead use the unwarranted confidence of the enemy. If you play your cards right, those armies rout very fast, especially with a good leadership general.
Also, you can always adjust your army before the match, right? Throw out some vets, take in some good regular troops, find a balance between quality and quantity. From my experience this holds true for almost all matches.

[sutphin]

I fought a few times against HIGHER ranking players who used ashigaru spam tactics, and i won, although one time just barely. Just don't get enveloped by their superior manpower, and don't be intimidated, instead use the unwarranted confidence of the enemy. If you play your cards right, those armies rout very fast, especially with a good leadership general.
Also, you can always adjust your army before the match, right? Throw out some vets, take in some good regular troops, find a balance between quality and quantity. From my experience this holds true for almost all matches.

Exactly, those tactics work in that situation. But, this thread is about fighting a lower level enemy in a small funds battle. So, even if I didn't use my vets, I could only buy an ashigaru unit which would not help much.

[Naramzu]

Still, you can adjust your army and retainers before the match. Let's say you have a leadership gen with increased influence and scare enemy skills. Take the bad omen retainer, and you enemy is pretty much done for. Generals get more expensive, they also get more valuable. Just adjust to different situations.

[turdles]

Still, you can adjust your army and retainers before the match. Let's say you have a leadership gen with increased influence and scare enemy skills. Take the bad omen retainer, and you enemy is pretty much done for. Generals get more expensive, they also get more valuable. Just adjust to different situations.

Yeah I wish I could do that, and it is a great idea. But unlocking the Bad Omen retainer is based entirely on luck, I believe.

[da_bradler]

I dunno, the only low ranked players I have trouble against are ones that bring lots of bow ashigaru. leadership makes it so hard for them to kill you in a bawl.

[TheTrueGreek]

just wondering, you all have gone leadership tree right?

My general is a famous swordsman and he can solo most lvl 1 armies. i know it doesn't help your general's so much, but thats the weakness of going leadership, you get better troops at the cost of a crappy gen.

still, all you should need is a great guard, a bow ashigaru and 2 kat sam. with trading post* (i wouldn't take vet versions)

gen: 2 k
GG: 1.2 k
Bow: .5 k
Kat: 1.5 k
5.2k
- 5% = 4.96k

use your gg to take car of cav, archers to distract though there not neccesary if you want to bring vet. and charge with your katana samurai. then snipe his gen with your great guard or charge his ashigaru with them, both would likely rout the army.

you can change it up if you want. sometimes i bring loan swords and yari cav which would probably be better for leadership generals. other times i just bring naginata samurai and rush my opponet (wouldn't advise doing that unless you have a melee gen)

[vanadis]

I always field 1 elite warrior monk, 1 elite no-daichi and 2 slightly vetted loan sword ashigarus.

Done right, the charge of the no-daichi almost instantly halves the number of an enemy ashigaru unit, causing it to route fast. The other ashigaru's tend to route quite fast when in my general's circle of influence,
since he's a legendary leader that causes fear. Combine that with the bad omen retainer and victory is soon at hand.

I'm not a fan of great guard in small funds games since most enemies will have plenty of spear ashigarus that can be quite a nuisance to the GG.

[YassirX]

Causing fear is bugged, your general is not causing fear.

[vanadis]

Causing fear is bugged, your general is not causing fear.

I'm pretty sure it is. Just the cause fear clan unit ability is bugged afaik.

[Sasori]

I quite like the recent low rank games I've been pitted against. Makes for an interesting change of pace from the larger battle fund games.

Each unit now has more importance as you are badly outnumbered, and using the terrain matters more than ever. Most of these games have been the most challenging and the closest endings, either victory or defeat.

I know many people want the matchmaking fixed, as do I, but I have to admit I will miss these battles when the time comes :3

[The Sword 88]

At level 9 I fielded yari hero, katana hero and melee general against a huge stack of peasants and won. It was glorious and got me the legendary force achievement.
I rather enjoy playing low levels and playing small battles. I wish there was a way to set a preference on what battle size to play.

[Gralachthule]

How does the Game decide when to use small or medium funds? Is there any way to force either of those options, or does it only depend on the lowest rank in the current game?