Summer 553 AUC - CTD

**Hannibal's Bane** · April 11, 2011, 07:03 AM

Hi All,

Love the mod, it's the only game that gets my very limited gaming time. But I have come across a serious problem.

I cannot move forward from my turn at Summer 553 AUC. As soon as I hit end turn, BAM crashes to desktop.

I've tried everything that has worked for me in the past, making sure all move points are used, maybe changing some paths, starting from an earlier point and trying some other things or doing other things. Everything fails, it crashes no matter if I used RomeTW or BI total war launcher. It will not move past this year/season for whatever reason.

I am playing as Carthage and using Steam as my launcher. Version 2.1a. I have not changed any files or preferences. I was never able to get the Script to run by clicking the lady.

After almost 7 years this is still one of my most favorite games and I was getting so close to invading the Roman heartland.

Any help would be appreciated. Great work to the mod team.

-- double posts merged (Brusilov) - please use the EDIT button

Sorry, in addition to the above info, I am also on Win7-64.

**12345678** · April 11, 2011, 09:00 AM

At first glance I would say there is a double character that is causing the CTD. Not sure if naming it "double character" is right, but I do know that this problem can be fixed by killing the character in question. So: enable following AI movement during turn cycle, and toggle the fog of war off, to see at what faction and what character the CTD occurs. Once you have found out, kill that character by console, press end turn, and it will probably be solved. That's from what I have read, I have never done this myself.

Now, at second glance, you say you have never been able to activate the script. You should never play this mod without the script running!! You might be able to fix this CTD, but chances are, another one will pop up very soon afterwards. I suggest you abandon this campaign, delete the save, then you fix the script problem, and once you are able to activate it, start a new campaign.

**Hannibal's Bane** · April 11, 2011, 09:06 AM

Thank you very much, I will look for the double character. But you bring up the bigger problem. I tried to activate the script by clicking the adviser lady.Followed the instructions in the forums, but no luck. I've read with Steam it does get a little fickle.

**Brusilov** · April 12, 2011, 02:58 PM

It's a cloned character. However, if you've never had the script activated there should not be one of these as it's the script that can create them - usually when the game is sometimes started with the script running and other times without the script.

If you've not managed to get the script to run I'd suggest trying to get it to run. After all the script is used to balance the campaign and if you're playing a Roman campaign add some rebellions in for good measure.

**12345678** · April 12, 2011, 03:31 PM

Cloned character, that's what I meant

**Hannibal's Bane** · April 17, 2011, 12:15 PM

I was able to get the script working on Alex using the native launcher after I did a clean install. Everything was working well. But now I keep getting a CTD during a massive 12,000 man battle between me and a reinforce army and Rome and a reinforce army on a bridge.

**chris10** · April 17, 2011, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Hannibal's Bane

I was able to get the script working on Alex using the native launcher after I did a clean install. Everything was working well. But now I keep getting a CTD during a massive 12,000 man battle between me and a reinforce army and Rome and a reinforce army on a bridge.

various possibilities...
1. during the battle you run out of system memory (2GB ?) lower settings, especially those of vegetation and trees to LOW...lower resolution
2. you did not click the checkbox UNIT SHADERS ON in the video settings > advanced options
3. Reinforcement battles on city sieges always end with CTD (RTW bug never fixed)..juts forwarding this as you may come across this bug..so you already know
4. Some drivers for ATI cards cause CTDs during battles...(dont remember which one though...Iam a Nvidia Fanboy

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**Hannibal's Bane** · April 17, 2011, 03:20 PM

Thanks for the info Chris10.
1. I am using Win7-64 with 8GB of RAM, but yes I know RTW doesn't use more than 2 GB (if not fooling around with some other settings which I don't do). So I guess it is possible. I will try to remove my reinforcing army. Even though both never show up before the CTD happens. Bridge battles always seem more taxing then even sieges. I've lowered EVERYTHING I CAN. Looks like a blob of colored jelly merging at this point.
2. You are correct, I did not use this checkbox, I thought it would be more taxing on my system. I will try.
3. I never had this happen to me. My sieges with reinforcements go pretty well.
4. Nvidia for me also, :-) I'm using a 460 SLI setup. (the hack on the non-SLI boards) Could also be causing the issue.

**chris10** · April 17, 2011, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Hannibal's Bane

Thanks for the info Chris10.
1. I am using Win7-64 with 8GB of RAM, but yes I know RTW doesn't use more than 2 GB (if not fooling around with some other settings which I don't do). So I guess it is possible. I will try to remove my reinforcing army. Even though both never show up before the CTD happens. Bridge battles always seem more taxing then even sieges. I've lowered EVERYTHING I CAN. Looks like a blob of colored jelly merging at this point.
2. You are correct, I did not use this checkbox, I thought it would be more taxing on my system. I will try.
3. I never had this happen to me. My sieges with reinforcements go pretty well.
4. Nvidia for me also, :-) I'm using a 460 SLI setup. (the hack on the non-SLI boards) Could also be causing the issue.

no 2 will solve your issue

**Hannibal's Bane** · April 17, 2011, 04:26 PM

Thank you. I will give it a try this evening and report back.

**Hannibal's Bane** · April 18, 2011, 06:17 AM

So I did try Unit Shaders on and no luck. I was squeezing the Romans from two ends on a bridge (like a vice) and it crashed. I then thought maybe it was just something about the bridge, I backed my army out, to fight them on a different terrain, and was still routing them and it still crashed. I also tried disabling SLI. Same results.

**chris10** · April 18, 2011, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Hannibal's Bane

So I did try Unit Shaders on and no luck. I was squeezing the Romans from two ends on a bridge (like a vice) and it crashed. I then thought maybe it was just something about the bridge, I backed my army out, to fight them on a different terrain, and was still routing them and it still crashed. I also tried disabling SLI. Same results.

Then I dont know....sounds like a graphic cards issue...not with the cards but with the drivers or the sli setting...
tried to disable sli and play with one card ?...

**Hannibal's Bane** · April 18, 2011, 09:53 AM

Hooray, I wish I could give you some rep.

Got it to work, turned off SLI, brought down to much lower resolution and screen size. Ran like a charm.

**chris10** · April 18, 2011, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Hannibal's Bane

Hooray, I wish I could give you some rep.

Got it to work, turned off SLI, brought down to much lower resolution and screen size. Ran like a charm.

you can always rep later...

anyway glad it works...nothing more annoying than a game waiting to be played and goes CTD every 5 minutes...

**Hannibal's Bane** · April 18, 2011, 10:46 AM

yup. I mean I understand that RTW has its problems for all its wonderfulness. And Mods are just bonuses in my book. If they work and you can play them, then great. I try to never get upset with CTD issues on Mods. These teams work hard and I'm sure they have jobs and families, so this is all candy.

I hope someone can use my knowledge. Just turn off SLI for RTW. It really doesn't work at all. My frames even seem higher now.

Thanks again.