Matchlocks shooting as if they were bolt actions?

[Spitzenhund]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak63s...el_video_title

K heres a video i uploaded of level 9 matchlock lock samurai with the barrage ability and ok i might get some fan boys saying "Those are level 9 though so there meant to be powerful". well yes they are but i got a level 6 Matchlock Warrior monk they can shoot with 10 better reload then that with 109 reload speed.

NOW heres for what the thread is made for notice how the matchlocks completely skip the reload animation and just keep on shooting i think that is just brutal now it is a game which is true but i thought this is so just down right messed up i feel like those are bolt actions rather than matchlocks


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9RP6A_uh40

It took this man about 39 seconds to reload and fire a matchlock

[Eien]

if we go by strict realism, matchlock units will be utterly useless :S, considering archers here fire a volley at a pace of 3-4 secs?

[Spitzenhund]

if we go by strict realism, matchlock units will be utterly useless :S, considering archers here fire a volley at a pace of 3-4 secs?

Very true but i think they just over did it right there imo not even old guard in napoleon total war did this

[Basileos Leandros I]

if we go by strict realism, matchlock units will be utterly useless :S, considering archers here fire a volley at a pace of 3-4 secs?

Not really. The Battle of Nagashino is the perfect example of how useful matchlock teppo ashigaru were.

[waidizss]

Not really. The Battle of Nagashino is the perfect example of how useful matchlock teppo ashigaru were.

aaaand.. probably the only one.
What is useful it's archers. They shoot far and their shots are like homing missile. Realism here we come!

[Basileos Leandros I]

aaaand.. probably the only one.
What is useful it's archers. They shoot far and their shots are like homing missile. Realism here we come!

Nobunaga was the only military genius who realised how useful teppo ashigaru were, that's why it's the only one, at least as a very known example (I'm sure there were more teppo ashigaru battles).

[Thoragoros]

Nobunaga was the only military genius who realised how useful teppo ashigaru were, that's why it's the only one, at least as a very known example (I'm sure there were more teppo ashigaru battles).

Not really.

Matchlocks became the most common weapon on the battlefield of Japan, and completely reshaped how warfare was carried out.

[GambleFish]

Nobunaga was the only military genius who realised how useful teppo ashigaru were, that's why it's the only one, at least as a very known example (I'm sure there were more teppo ashigaru battles).

Yeah, I mean, haven't you seen Sengoku Basara? That's where I learned all my Japanese Sengoku Jidai history.


On a completely unrelated note, did you know Honda Tadakatsu could fly?

[Eien]

Not really. The Battle of Nagashino is the perfect example of how useful matchlock teppo ashigaru were.

Nagashino happened in real life, and Katsuyori was an idiot. I mean as in the in game archers will decimate a teppo squad if they were to shoot at once per 40 secs :S, considering your archers release a volley at 3-4 secs interval.

[pditty8811]

if we go by strict realism, matchlock units will be utterly useless :S, considering archers here fire a volley at a pace of 3-4 secs?

So.....

I prefer realism over inaccraccies.

[Ebusitanus]

Its a game, make a Mod that slows it down, if you do not like it do not play it, bla bla bla...

[/ typical fanboi rant]

[Pharoah]

Didn't they skip it med 2?

[Spitzenhund]

Didn't they skip it med 2?

Nope they took a long time to reload maybe to long but its funny in med 2 archers shot faster and had lower range than muskets but in shogun 2 archers shoot slower but have longer range

[Lugiahua]

Nope they took a long time to reload maybe to long but its funny in med 2 archers shot faster and had lower range than muskets but in shogun 2 archers shoot slower but have longer range

wait, archers had shorter range than firearms in M2TW? How come I remembered the opposite?

[eregost]

wait, archers had shorter range than firearms in M2TW? How come I remembered the opposite?

Depends on the firearm. Arquebusiers had shorter range, Musketeers had longer range. The gunners in Shogun don't use muskets so the reduced range makes sense and doesn't conflict with what was present in Medieval 2.

[Tepok]

Well, thay had two balance choices: Either better range but slower rate (like- Way slower) than archers (real life) or what we have now.

Mods can fix, or ulterior patches (dreamworld)

Anyway, they chose the balance themselves.

Archers are here to hunt the buggers...

[Spitzenhund]

Yea well i play multiplayer mostly so... no mods for me

[Humble Warrior]

I would prefer it realistic. Hopefully darthmod might fix this. Bad luck about online.

[Birk]

I would prefer it realistic. Hopefully darthmod might fix this. Bad luck about online.

Realistic 1:30 to 2min reload time + nerf long range damage

[waidizss]

Realistic 1:30 to 2min reload time + nerf long range damage

But the melee engagement itself doesn't last 2minutes