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    First off guys, this is a great mod! I was a bit leery at first, but in the few battles I've played have been excellent and I am very interested in developing the campaign further. I'm glad that there haven't been any bugs or crashes yet and I feel that you've really managed to develop the feel of the first world war, I'm anticipating your version 5.0 with baited breath!

    I don't know what reference materials you've been working off of, but if I could make a suggestion for a book to be read for some interesting technical and tactical information on the war. It's called 'The Myth of the Great War' by John Mosier. It's an excellent book that examines a lot of aspects of the first world war that get overlooked, most importantly, the weapons and technology, and with it the tactical and strategic planning differences. I haven't sunk my teeth into the Mod as much as I'd like yet, but I can say that I found the book quite illuminating.

    But if you folks haven't read it, you have done an excellent job so far and don't let me put a damper on your efforts.

    Once again, excellent work!

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    Interesting... I was looking a while back for a book like what you describe, this may be quite useful. +rep for the tip, and we're glad you are enjoying the mod
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    This is what makes us modders feel our work is appreciated, great to know you like the mod, and thanks for your feedback!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFHAuthor View Post
    I don't know what reference materials you've been working off of, but if I could make a suggestion for a book to be read for some interesting technical and tactical information on the war. It's called 'The Myth of the Great War' by John Mosier. It's an excellent book that examines a lot of aspects of the first world war that get overlooked, most importantly, the weapons and technology, and with it the tactical and strategic planning differences. I haven't sunk my teeth into the Mod as much as I'd like yet, but I can say that I found the book quite illuminating.

    But if you folks haven't read it, you have done an excellent job so far and don't let me put a damper on your efforts.

    Once again, excellent work!
    That book isn't great - its quite old now and a lot of it's conclusions don't stand up to some of the more recent scholarship that has gone on. It's interesting as an argument but I wouldn't say that many of it's conclusions are that sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyudet View Post
    That book isn't great - its quite old now and a lot of it's conclusions don't stand up to some of the more recent scholarship that has gone on. It's interesting as an argument but I wouldn't say that many of it's conclusions are that sound.
    Actually, the book hasn't been refuted on anything it's said. The sources are blatantly listed in the last page of each chapter if you'd care to do some self-research. Secondly, how is a book that was published in 2001 "old"? Just because you disagree with the facts that were presented doesn't mean you need to bash the book. It is a great source of information that doesn't necessarily coincide with the accepted version of history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whukid View Post
    Actually, the book hasn't been refuted on anything it's said. The sources are blatantly listed in the last page of each chapter if you'd care to do some self-research. Secondly, how is a book that was published in 2001 "old"? Just because you disagree with the facts that were presented doesn't mean you need to bash the book. It is a great source of information that doesn't necessarily coincide with the accepted version of history.
    The book is 10 years old - there's been a fair amount of scholarship undertaken on the first world war in the last ten years. There's been much more active research by historians into primary source material on the German [and French] side in the last 10 years.

    I happen to agree that the Germans were on the whole tactically and operationally superior in the early parts of 1914, i'd suggest that some of the more recent works such as Zuber's 2 books on the 1914 campaign and the Jack Sheldon books are possibly more useful in understanding how the Germans fought.

    I didn't dispute the book's source material - rather the conclusions of the author.

    I'm not sure that the 'myth' that Mosier is trying to 'explode' is really a myth at all...

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