Intresting finds in DB tables

**Shugo560** · April 07, 2011, 11:03 PM

i was using pack file manager 1.6.5 and looking through the DB tables and at
unit_stats_naval_crew_to_factions, there were still european models in there, so i was considering in my mind, mabye CA left euro models in shogun2, but another reason was, WHY!?!?!?!? mabye its for a DLC or they left it there for the modding community to use naval euro models, unlikely i suppose but i might try it and see what happens

**Comte Carnot** · April 07, 2011, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Shugo560

i was using pack file manager 1.6.5 and looking through the DB tables and at
unit_stats_naval_crew_to_factions, there were still european models in there, so i was considering in my mind, mabye CA left euro models in shogun2, but another reason was, WHY!?!?!?!? mabye its for a DLC or they left it there for the modding community to use naval euro models, unlikely i suppose but i might try it and see what happens

What about the European Traders? Are the original Black Ship crewman recycled from NTW? It's been a while since I went up against it on the campaign but I don't think they were identical to the Japanese crewmen.

**Shugo560** · April 08, 2011, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Comte Carnot

What about the European Traders? Are the original Black Ship crewman recycled from NTW? It's been a while since I went up against it on the campaign but I don't think they were identical to the Japanese crewmen.

not sure buddy never got face to face with the black ship before it was taken over, ill have to somehow find that out

**Dynamo11** · April 08, 2011, 04:35 AM

The Black Ship's crew are an entirely new model not seen in either NTW or ETW. What you have discovered is an entry for that model only (alas there are no NTW models

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**~~ToonTotalWar~~** · April 08, 2011, 05:17 AM

I have tried to get the euro marines in game and they do not show?? they are not working in S2 unless someone can tell me otherwise

**Shugo560** · April 08, 2011, 10:29 AM

i was searching for at least 30 minutes for the black ships crew and no idea where in the world they be, not in unit_stats_naval_crew which confused me cause that is where they be

where can they possibly be, and can someone post a picture what the black ship crew looks like before it captured and has it european crew

edit: i found parts of the euro models in models.pack, but it says they are using japanese equipment with european heads

**vietanh797** · April 10, 2011, 01:42 PM

they almost look like pirate in ETW with a bandana cover their head and stay low under the wood so I can't see their face
I wish I can board it but I lost 2 stack of medium bune and sengoku bune and almost none of that ship crew die so I guess I will never fight it again in a battle but auto is much better

**Shugo560** · April 10, 2011, 08:21 PM

k thanks for the info, how bout all us have a big competition to find the european models and parts in the files

, first one has the honors of finding revolutionary models for everyone

**Shugo560** · April 12, 2011, 05:56 PM

anyone find a clue yet i havent not a single one

**lazsersgopewpew** · April 13, 2011, 06:56 PM

these files are based off of the napolean filles with modifications here and there this is why they are so alike. this is the same reason why it is as easy to mod napolean as it is shogun. also that is why if you look in the faction tables you will see lots of british and french things. this is why I also think it may be possible to add empire units into shogun, like in napolean.

**Shugo560** · April 13, 2011, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by lazsersgopewpew

these files are based off of the napolean filles with modifications here and there this is why they are so alike. this is the same reason why it is as easy to mod napolean as it is shogun. also that is why if you look in the faction tables you will see lots of british and french things. this is why I also think it may be possible to add empire units into shogun, like in napolean.

actually models in shogun have more bones and joints, we'd need someone able to create and open mesh files so he can change units from empire and napolean

**Dogmeat** · April 14, 2011, 11:52 PM

Tried using the Euro meshes but it seems that the euro atlas isnt working properly i think maybe they are there as a test remnant of NTW or maybe for campaign or cinematic models,

And the Black Ship when i fought it in a custom battle had samurai aboard

THou - it was for a japanese faction maybe Portugal in custom battles (if poss) might have diffrent crew hmmm.