More trade nodes?

[Basileos Leandros I]

Only a handful of trade nodes doesn't really quite go for the economic balance.

IMHO, more trades nodes are needed, exactly with the same resources. Perhaps 3 for Raw Silk and another one for Iron would make it more economically viable and help even the lesser clans who cannot afford strong units. That way it helps the balance and makes smaller clans not such a pushover.

Thoughts?

[SonOfCrusader76]

Why not?

[CtrlAltDe1337]

Just put more ships on it...?

[TotalWarker]

Just put more ships on it...?

dont think that was his point... a swing and a miss

[Basileos Leandros I]

Just put more ships on it...?

No, not that. When I for example occupy a trade node, only I get access to it and such other clans are restricted from building legendary/advanced buildings because I own that resources.

By having two or three trade nodes of the same resource, income is improved for the clans and also construction of advanced buildings is possible.

This should be considered for the expansion pack.

[c.ryo]

I assume his point is to benefit the AI clans. Instead of having six nodes, Twelve for e.g. would have given a possibility for more clans to control them and not only player clan.

[Steforian]

I have started more than one war over getting a node from a former ally.

[lsm]

i think there's too many nodes as it is already

the mainland has plenty of horses and iron, but for some reason there's only 1 unique silk and cotton but 2 incense? are temples that much more important, and seeing how religion could easily be split, where christian legendary church doesnt even need incense, i wouldn't mind seeing that 2nd incense cut out. although if they absolutely have to add some nodes, then let it be 1 more lumber, stone and craftgoods, with the incense gone

if anything i'd like to see the AI patched to be more aggressive towards the nodes. the first few turns, it's always the same handful of minor clans that rush the trade nodes (maybe it's because they start with trade ships?), which can be stopped with some really cheesy gamey tactics. the larger established AIs eventually catches up with it's efforts to get the resources, more so on VH, but it's usually more often than not way too late.

i've declared war for resources also, so why not the AI? so many times i've seen them park by the node and wait for it to empty, but never attack/declare war for the node. if it empties whoever is first to play their turn gets the node.. it's not very bright for that purpose

overall though, i'm more inclined with rare legendary buildings as opposed to many, and as far as the AI needing the trade money it's my opinion that's a non issue just because the AI gets bonuses to it's taxes (or however it works). having said that, i guess on normal difficulty it should be more devious to get the resources, and for easy.. well it's easy it should just remain brain dead and beaten

[Amaranthen]

Since the map of Japan is not Facing North.

Put some more trade nodes facing Korea and Ming Dynasty China. Put another one (in addition to the iron trade node) above Date and Usegai starter province.

[priam11]

Not sure the number of trade nodes is the problem. Rather their location. 5 of the 6 are on the western half. Not very balanced.

[Thoragoros]

Not sure the number of trade nodes is the problem. Rather their location. 5 of the 6 are on the western half. Not very balanced.

This where the trade occured.

[teafanatic]

The only problem with putting more trade nodes in would be that it's utterly ahistorical. Trade was mostly done by daimyos on the very southern end of the country -- basically Kyushu and Chugoku (Mori area). As it is it reflects the monopoly that these places should have over the trade with these other places.

[homefry]

the more they added, the more the player would control.

you would have to add some rule where you couldn't control more than 5 or something like that.

[Dubh the dark]

the more they added, the more the player would control.

you would have to add some rule where you couldn't control more than 5 or something like that.

True - it's too easy to steal the trade and enrich your own clan, a limit on the number of nodes the player could have at once would be a really good solution, with maybe chi unlocked 1/2 extra trade nodes over time.

[Jet Jaguar]

Is the way over-seas trade is represented in S2:TW historically accurate? I know very little about Japanese history of this era (though S2:TW is really making me want to learn). Did clans fight over sea trade? Do the specific trade goods of the different trade nodes have a basis in real history? Thanks in advance

[teafanatic]

Is the way over-seas trade is represented in S2:TW historically accurate? I know very little about Japanese history of this era (though S2:TW is really making me want to learn). Did clans fight over sea trade? Do the specific trade goods of the different trade nodes have a basis in real history? Thanks in advance

Trade was carried out by various types of pirates (wako). You had to be nice to them to get the trade, so in that sense, no, the nodes are pretty inaccurate, but the other solution would've involved pirate factions, which is pretty complicated to deal with.

[Babaganoush]

Where else do you expect them to put it? Guam?

Oh how about the United Stat- oh wait it's 1550.

[AlfonsoVIII]

I just want the fow to show the trade node locations accuarately.

[Steforian]

I just want the fow to show the trade node locations accuarately.

Its a SHAMEFERUU DISPRAAY that the nodes are not shown accurately.

[Basileos Leandros I]

Its a SHAMEFERUU DISPRAAY that the nodes are not shown accurately.

Not really, it gives an approximate location which is more or less how it should be. Exploring should be fun, and it mimics real life.