diplomacy end game possible?

**Vann7** · April 05, 2011, 05:13 PM

hello..

was wondering what i can do.. im about the end of the small campaign..
i was making lots of money trading with others.. but since i conquered..
the last province in the game checklist.. every faction now.. hates me..
and every faction is allied..againts me... im their only enemy. lol

thats doesn't look realistic ..seems as if the only way.. CA could
make the game hard was.. making the entire japan.. invade my lands.

What i can do? i only finished the chosokabe island and only have a couple of
provinces in the main land.. have not conquered yet the total number of provinces that i need..
only the most important ones..cant make money anymore trading..

any info appreciated.

**Adversity** · April 05, 2011, 05:25 PM

Not really, unless you conquer provinces and make them vassals... Otherwise you're stuck fighting war.

**Drox** · April 06, 2011, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Adversity

Not really, unless you conquer provinces and make them vassals... Otherwise you're stuck fighting war.

Actually, from my experience it seems that even when conquered after the realm divide, a vassal will also receive the diplomacy penalty caused by the event.

**StormtrooperDan** · April 05, 2011, 05:39 PM

Here is a good thread and how to prepare for Realm Divide.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=436206

**WarCollider** · April 05, 2011, 08:20 PM

I don't think it's possible without mods. I suggest using the mod which reduces the penalty (instead of a small penalty which never ends until it reaches -200, it gives a larger -50 penalty which lowers each turn, so you want see everyone going to war with you), or the mod which removes it altogether.

**Amaranthen** · April 05, 2011, 08:24 PM

My diplomacy is made of blood and head of those that stand in my way.

After I fought off a few full stacks in front of my fortress from various clans, I started counterattacking viciously.

My defending armies that they burned are mainly peasant yari, my counterattacking armies, however, are full stacks of 3 stripe + samurai units.

**Babaganoush** · April 05, 2011, 08:28 PM

Impossible. Again, not without mods.

If you refuse to play without mods, it's best to check your Fame status and stop getting territory before 1-2 RD trigger. From there, tech up, receive trade, store up money. You'll need it.

**Amaranthen** · April 06, 2011, 06:30 PM

Well I find some clans do surrender after they are down to their last leg (province) with two of my samurai armies rushing toward them.

Realm divide works both ways, they keep pouring men under your castles, your units gain tremendous experience. Then once you counterattack, they'll have some real trouble routing your highly experienced units.