Historically accurate regions

[Giorgios]

Hi guys, since there doesn't seem to be a thread for this, I thought I'd open one. Last night, I downloaded SS6.4, and while it seems an admirable mod in many respects, it lacks one thing I had hoped for- better region boundaries! I've resolved to correct this myself, and have begun with the Balkans, since, as a Byzantine player, these are important for me. The boundaries I'm going will be for the 1100 campaign- any help would be very much appreciated. So far, the sum total of changes can be seen on the two maps below- the original on the left, and the current edit on the right.

I'll need a fair bit of help with this though: while I can more or less get cracking on the area in the Byzantine sphere of influence on my own, much of the rest of the map draws a blank from me. Which areas, in the opinion of modders, are overpopulated? I had thought to remove a couple from Western Europe, and redistribute them in the Near East, but we'll see what people think...

[Gorrrrrn]

G - will these make any difference to placement of settlements or to other game play aspects?

[Giorgios]

G - will these make any difference to placement of settlements or to other game play aspects?

Probably, yes, though not to any major degree. As someone who tends to play with Eastern factions, notably Sicily, the ERE and the Crusaders, many of the changes will be here, but these will mostly impact upon the boundaries of the provinces, rather than the provinces themselves. I'll probably change a few anachronistic names too- Dyrrachium rather than Durazzo, for example. I've now edited Anatolia and the Levant too, and tested these- all is working well, for now! Will try and upload a screenshot...

[Giorgios]

And here's a quick screenshot showing most of the changes I've done so far- as you can see, it's nothing shocking, but is, in my view, really much more aesthetically pleasing. For some reason, Geomod is being a bit strange and not allowing me to rename regions and provinces. This means the big new Saharan province I've done is seemingly unable to be attached to anyone but Venice, and is only called "New Province". Can someone remind me how to do it "manually"?

[RollingWave]

And here's a quick screenshot showing most of the changes I've done so far- as you can see, it's nothing shocking, but is, in my view, really much more aesthetically pleasing. For some reason, Geomod is being a bit strange and not allowing me to rename regions and provinces. This means the big new Saharan province I've done is seemingly unable to be attached to anyone but Venice, and is only called "New Province". Can someone remind me how to do it "manually"?

look in descr_strat.txt , move the region to the faction you want to attach it to (either rebel or moors probably) if your not sure where just search for a province of that faction and attack it under it.

[Marku]

interesting mini mod Giorgos :-)

i agree British isles / Scandinavia has crazy big unit roster/emphasis etc
Mediterranean needs more focus especially Balkans

[RollingWave]

I've been working on that myself. generally speaking in terms of 1100 until the Black death (primarily based on population, secondarily based on political entity considerations.)

dreadfully overrepresented : British Isles , Scandinvia

dreadfully underrepresented : France, Italy, Germany, Ukarin / Belarus region of the Rus sphere (in that order)

overrepsented : eastern edges of the Russian Steppes, Maghreb, Arabian Peninsula

under represented : Andalusia, Mesopotamia

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List of region I'll probably cut / add / move are.

British Isles : cut Galway Abedreen Exeter

France : move Clermont to Poitiers, add Orleans, Nice (border with Genoa), Troyes

Germany : Add Lubeck, Hanover

Northern Italy : Add Verona, Florence, possibly Trieste.

Andalusia : split Sevilla with Badajoz again.

Maghreb : move Melliea to Sijilmasa , remove the minor Algeria region.

Arabian Peninsula : remove Al Aqba (split between Kerak and Gaza with Kerak getting the bigger share), merge the Bahrain / Oman region into 1.

Mesopotmia: add Najaf, possibly add Samarra

Scandinavia: Merge Bergen with Eikursund , merge Nyeoping with Uppsala, remove Skara

Ukrain : added Chernigov, Turov, moved Zhotymyr to Volodymyr,

Russian Steppes : removed Embi and that region north of Kazan. probably will remove Serdoba as well

For the Balkan region at this point I only moved the Wallachian province south to from lower Bulgaria based around Tarnovo, Wallachia did not really form until the later half of the medieval period. and the seperation between the Bulgarians and Vlach in this period is not THAT big.

[RollingWave]

if your interested, my own map edited turned out something like this.

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and the specific area I added / axed

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