Rebels and mercs

[meliritos]

I want to delete mercs and rebels from vanilla and add those from my mod. What files except for EDU and EDB should i check?

[Eothese]

In the imperial_campaign folder, campaign_script, descr_strat, descr_mercenaries, and descr_rebel_factions in the main folder.

[Ishan]

I want to delete mercs and rebels from vanilla and add those from my mod. What files except for EDU and EDB should i check?

Rebels and mercs don't have entries in EDB, rebels have in descr_rebel_factions.txt and mercs in descr_mercenaries.txt, don't forget the export_units.txt file as well.

[meliritos]

Ok i must be doing sth wrong here because with mercs i have a problem

I have this in EDU

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type Batroc
dictionary Batroc ; Batroc
category infantry
class light
voice_type Light
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Batroc, 60, 0, 0.8
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 6, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 2, 1, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, piercing, knife, 25, 1.8
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 0, 1, 0, flesh
;stat_armour_ex 0, 4, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental 3, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 120, 90, 75, 60, 120, 4, 30
armour_ug_levels 0
armour_ug_models Batroc
ownership slave
era 0 slave
era 1 slave
era 2 slave
;unit_info 2, 0, 1

and i have this in modeldb

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6 Batroc
1 4
41 unit_models/_Units/mercs/Batroc_lod0.mesh 121
41 unit_models/_Units/mercs/Batroc_lod1.mesh 900
41 unit_models/_Units/mercs/Batroc_lod2.mesh 2500
41 unit_models/_Units/mercs/Batroc_lod3.mesh 6400
1
4 merc
52 unit_models/_Units/mercs/textures/Batroc.texture
59 unit_models/_Units/mercs/textures/Batroc_normal.texture
48 unit_sprites/scotland_Highland_Rabble_sprite.spr
1
4 merc
49 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Daredevil_diff.texture
49 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Daredevil_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
18 MTW2_Fast_Knifeman 0
1
18 MTW2_Knife_Primary 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

I have the unit in a unit models folder under mercs file and the texture.

For now i thought i would put him in Scotland region just to run the test

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pool Scotland_Ireland
regions Inverness_Province Edinburgh_Province Dublin_Province
unit merc cog, exp 0 cost 200 replenish 0.36 - 1.0 max 1 initial 1 religions { catholic } crusading
unit merc cog, exp 0 cost 1000 replenish 0.02 - 0.10 max 1 initial 1
unit Mercenary Crossbowmen exp 0 cost 860 replenish 0.04 - 0.13 max 2 initial 1
unit Batroc exp 0 cost 380 replenish 0.06 - 0.18 max 3 initial 1
unit Irish Kerns Mercs exp 0 cost 380 replenish 0.06 - 0.18 max 3 initial 1
unit Galloglaich Mercs exp 0 cost 830 replenish 0.04 - 0.13 max 2 initial 0
unit Mercenary Ribault exp 0 cost 600 replenish 0.02 - 0.04 max 1 initial 0 events { gunpowder_discovered }
unit Pilgrims exp 0 cost 35 replenish 0.18 - 0.5 max 4 initial 1 religions { catholic } crusading
unit Crusader Sergeants exp 0 cost 110 replenish 0.15 - 0.35 max 2 initial 1 end_year 1300 religions { catholic } crusading

and i get this error message that says it cannot get attributes for model Batroc in EDU, although as you can see attributes are there. My only guess is that i should have registered this unit elsewhere as well and i didnt so i get the error message. What am i doing wrong?

[Ishan]

No those are the only files that you need and i can't see any problem in the code unfortunately.

Eothese do you see anything peculiar in the code bro?

[Moon]

Recreated this slightly different to the OP and it works
EDU

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type Batroc
dictionary Batroc ; Highland Rabble
category infantry
class light
voice_type Light
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Batroc, 60, 0, 0.8
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, mercenary_unit
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 3, 1, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_simple, piercing, knife, 25, 1.8
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 0, 2, 0, flesh
;stat_armour_ex 0, 2, 0, 0, 2, 0, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 1, -2, 3, 4
stat_mental 3, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 120, 90, 55, 135, 120, 4, 30
armour_ug_levels 0, 1
armour_ug_models Batroc
ownership slave
;unit_info 3, 0, 2
recruit_priority_offset 0

BMDB

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6 batroc
1 4
49 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/batroc_lod0.mesh 121
49 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/batroc_lod1.mesh 900
49 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/batroc_lod2.mesh 2500
49 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/batroc_lod3.mesh 6400
2
5 slave
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/textures/en_highlander_mercs.texture
76 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/textures/en_highlander_mercs_normal.texture
41 unit_sprites/slave_Irish_Kerns_sprite.spr
4 merc
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/textures/en_highlander_mercs.texture
76 unit_models/_Units/EN_Highlander/textures/en_highlander_mercs_normal.texture
40 unit_sprites/merc_Irish_Kerns_sprite.spr
2
5 slave
66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_slave_diff.texture
66 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_slave_norm.texture 0
4 merc
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_merc_diff.texture
65 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final European Light_merc_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
18 MTW2_Fast_Knifeman 0
1
18 MTW2_Knife_Primary 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

[Ishan]

Hm i had that suspicion as well and was going to say it but then i saw example without slave BMDB entry so i thought that wasn't it.

24 mercenary_german_knights 
1 3 
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/mercenary_german_knights_lod0.mesh 121 
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/mercenary_german_knights_lod1.mesh 1225 
69 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/mercenary_german_knights_lod2.mesh 6400 
1 
4 merc 
72 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_mercs.texture 
73 unit_models/_Units/EN_Pplate_Plate/textures/mtw2_EN_Pplate_normal.texture 
55 unit_sprites/merc_Dummy_EN_Plate_Knights_ug1_sprite.spr 
1 
4 merc 
64 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Special Heads_merc_diff.texture 
64 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Special Heads_merc_norm.texture 0  
1 
5 Horse 
13 MTW2_HR_Lance 
12 MTW2_HR_Mace 2 
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 2 
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

Vanilla entry that i saw.

[Eothese]

I concur, an EDU entry with the mercenary_unit attribute only needs the one texture ref in the .db for merc.
The string counts are wrong, but the error log sounds as if it may be failing before that point...
48 unit_models/_Units/mercs/textures/Batroc.texture
55 unit_models/_Units/mercs/textures/Batroc_normal.texture
Post the log entry if that does not fix it.

[Ishan]

Thanks Eothese for confirming it.
@meliritos
Damnit bro use modeldb checker for eliminating string count errors.

[Moon]

I concur too, it was a quick copy\paste of the Irish Kerns BMDB texture entries.

[meliritos]

If the string error was the only one then that doesnt do it since i had detected the mistake and corrected it before you had seen it. I dont know if it needs entries for slaves as well as mercs for the textures to work, i will try it when i get home tonight and i will try Eothese entries as well.

Gigantus had mentioned that my EDU may have formatting problems but he is not here to explain further...

By the way what is an OP Eothese?

[Ishan]

OP=Opening Post\Poster
Any error in EDU will be logged.
Any crucial error in BMDB will not start your game and CTD firsthand.

[meliritos]

23:35:38.250 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2
23:35:38.250 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Feb 25 2008 version development ===
23:35:38.250 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack
23:35:38.250 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_1.pack
23:35:38.265 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_2.pack
23:35:38.265 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_3.pack
23:35:38.265 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_4.pack
23:35:38.265 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/localized.pack
23:38:17.296 [data.invalid] [error] DATABASE_TABLE error found : unrecognised record id Bosnian Archers requested.

23:38:17.296 [data.invalid] [error] DATABASE_TABLE error found : unrecognised record id Bosnian Archers requested.

23:38:28.406 [data.invalid] [error] World creation error: couldn't find unit description for unit type 'Norse Archers'.
23:38:28.406 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Bare_Geomod/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 2296, column 1
Could not create(Norse Archers) from the unit database.
23:38:28.406 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Bare_Geomod/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 2296, column 1
Unable to create new army

[meliritos]

but it worked better than before, i will try to track down the errors ... Eothese you either tell me what you changed or i give you to code the rest of the mercs in, what do you say?

[Eothese]

Sure thing, I changed the values of the string counts to match the length of the string...
Simple as that.

[meliritos]

Then i guess IT IS some formatting error as Gigantus said, because i had done that myself before you told me and it didnt work. Apart from the campaign script for the second error any idea where i should be looking for for the first one?

[Ishan]

Just so you know there has to be a space after every line check my code above for German knights.^
Without spaces sometimes it can cause problems.

[Eothese]

I'd look at EDU and the Bosnian Archers unit, then check the Norse Archers, just follow on from one file to the next...

[meliritos]

Yeah, i am beginning to get the essentials of coding. I checked some mistakes and when i start the campaign now it loads without errors. Even added one more unit, i will continue with the rest, although i dont know if i run into some problems in the future with all these units i am deleting

[Ishan]

Yeah, i am beginning to get the essentials of coding. I checked some mistakes and when i start the campaign now it loads without errors. Even added one more unit, i will continue with the rest, although i dont know if i run into some problems in the future with all these units i am deleting

Removing units is no big deal read this post i posted a while back to a guy who had no idea on modding. Once the unit is gone and your game loads up fine it can never give you headaches later on reset assured bro.