Retarded Allies...

**KoalaAkbar** · April 01, 2011, 07:55 PM

So my English allies and I are storming Paris. The battle bar thingy says its 3:4. I am confident in my own abilities and sure that I'll win. Then, my allies start acting retarded. After I knock down their walls, I tell them to form up behind my men. They were in defensive mode, so they RAN like a hundred miles..... Why would they run if they're in defensive mode????? It just makes them exhausted and fight poorly, and it happens EVERY TIME. Then I put them to attack mode, and they send 2 units of heavy infantry towards the city, but they quickly die..... The other 2000 men walk the OTHER DIRECTION!! WTF??? I order them to go directly into the city square, and then they walk EVEN FURTHER BACK!!! Would it be better for me to just not enable them to be commanded in battle?

**Ferdiad** · April 01, 2011, 07:59 PM

Well you see, the fact is that the AI is completely

ing retarded.Oh sure its better than vanilla, but thats no consolation to you.My advice is to go it alone, break your alliance and become a lone wolf.

**Ishan** · April 01, 2011, 08:10 PM

Soulson has done some AI enhancements you might want to check that out in the SS submod section. But overall it's not Civ 5 lol it's Total War.

**Ferdiad** · April 02, 2011, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ishan

.... But overall it's not Civ 5 lol it's Total War.

And may we thank god for that.

**Lugiahua** · April 01, 2011, 10:52 PM

well, it's not that complicated...

once you knock down the wall/gate, just set assault mode and watch allies soften the enemy
then send your men to mop up the rest.

don't worry if allies took the plaza, the city is still yours.

**Forever Steadfast** · April 02, 2011, 12:55 AM

Coordinated attacks with your allies is next to impossible with this game. Use them as meat-shields, and spare a few of your own men's lives. As Lugiahua said, let them do the meat grinding and then mop up the enemy with your intact, fresh forces.

**BarSteward** · April 02, 2011, 04:47 AM

I always let them do the dieing while i take the city... although i kinda feel bad about it at first but i get the city and an intact army + the AI get help that i don't get.

but i do take your point. i tried something with a reinforcing army of my own. I had 2 army's lay siege on the same city and they both had lots of rams, towers and ladders. but even when i set the reinforcing stack to aggressive they still waited for me to brake the gates down and put ladders up and then still went around the city and went up my ladders etc. thats just annoying...

**SirRobin** · April 02, 2011, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by Forever Steadfast

Coordinated attacks with your allies is next to impossible with this game. Use them as meat-shields, and spare a few of your own men's lives. As Lugiahua said, let them do the meat grinding and then mop up the enemy with your intact, fresh forces.

Or fight like a man of honour alongside your allies.

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**Forever Steadfast** · April 02, 2011, 05:59 AM

Or fight like a man of honour alongside your allies.

Lucky for me, its just a game, huh?

**Germanicu5** · April 02, 2011, 06:32 AM

@Jihad4Life

Can you please upload a savegame made before that happened? I'd gladly have a look at it.

@Ishan

Soulson did Campaign AI improvements, not battle AI.

@everybody

Please report any battle AI issues here, if I get good feedback, a savegame and a copy of campaign_script.txt it'd be pretty easy to justify whether particular behaviour could be improved (allies won't get any smarter anyway I'm afraid).

Regards